I'm happy with my bosch oven and cooktop. I'm building a new home and we're going with the 800 series induction cooktop. I would go with the Bosch oven too, but I realized I rarely use my oven compared to my cooktop, so I'm taking the advice of some of the pros here and putting in a Frigidaire oven because it's about $1000 less than the Bosch. If I knew I used the ovens more, I'd definitely pick the Bosch again.

Know that if you're thinking drawer microwave they are all made by Sharp.

When I redid ours I went with Liebherr fridge, Bertazzoni range and Miele dw. It worked very well. Turned out buyer didn't care about the appliances & most don't know. What I learned was the overall look of the kitchen -- tile and marble counters -- were more important than appliances. Those were in line with Manhattan resale value as well. But Brooklyn may be different.

Here are the appliances we are contemplating....Would love feedback on all items.

30" Pro Style Bertazzoni Gas Range

Kenmore 51763 Side by Side Fridge - Ideally would like to not have water filter on outside

Dishwasher Electrolux EI24ID30QS 24"

Havent picked anything out for built in microwave and also washer/dryer combo just looking for something affordable that performs well.

Can anyone also provide feedback on pros/cons of full gas range vs stove top/built in oven?

Thanks!!

and our fan does not vent outside

I was happy with the Berta. There are definite pros/cons however which I detailed previously. Also many reviews with pros/cons going back at least 5 years on this forum. A search here or a google search for bertazzoni/gardenweb will turn them up.

For dishwasher, I would look at Bosch. Along with Miele it's one of the top choices.

Sharp makes all microwaves. That fines things down.

I personally loathe side-by-side refrigerators. I've had 2 and never again. But Kenmore makes a sturdy fridge. Sexier choices include Fisher & Paykel, Electrolux and Liebherr.

Cooktop vs b-i oven can be an issue depending on available electricity. My wall oven required a 240v line which may not be standard.

Frigidaire and Electrolux both make full size washer/dryers that go well in tight spaces or under tall counters in a laundry area. Frigidaire is slightly more compact but doesn't have as many features.

"Kenmore makes a sturdy fridge."

Kenmore does not make appliances. They rebadge someone elses fridge. Depending on the model, it might be LG, Samsung, Whirlpool or GE.

@weedmeister - distinction without a difference seems to me.

I disagree rococogurl - the Kenmores from Whirlpool will be different from the Kenmores from GE, which will be different from the Kenmores from Electrolux or other manufacturers.

And a consumer knows that how exactly? And if the consumer knows that, what are the differences that actually matter to someone purchasing an accessibly priced refrigerator? Also, how is that helpful to the OP who wants to know if a Kenmore refrigerator is OK?

I don't dispute the facts. have a Kenmore sxs fridge from 1991 in my garage. It was original to the house. It's nothing exceptional and no idea who made it. But it outlived the built in we swapped it out for when we renovated. Sturdy. Serviceable. Whatever. It's still in service and I appreciate that.

I have a CD single door bottom freezer Fisher Paykel - a year and half old. We just purchased another for another home. Love it. Quiet, looks good, plenty of room and a great price.

Nancy that's good to know as I'm considering their new integrated Fisher & Paykel refrigerator in my new build.

Stephanie, if you're going with a separate cooktop and ovens, have you considered an induction cooktop? Especially since your fans don't vent outside. You wouldn't have the gas fumes.

As for DW, I would stick with either Bosch or Miele.

Sharp for a MW as I said before.

I know there's not much love for LG W/D's but I love mine and will be putting LG's in my new build too.

Have you considered induction instead of gas? With no outside ventilation I would give that some serious consideration if you haven't already. Lots of induction threads here and a big majority of people love their induction ranges/cooktops.

A a range will usually be less expensive than a cooktop and oven. If you are thinking of putting the oven under the cooktop you need to consider the required clearances for the appliances and the oven may end up lower than it is in a range. If you are thinking of an oven installed elsewhere at approximately counter higher, that is a great arrangement ergonomically.

For a dishwasher, I would recommend Bosch. Miele gets consistently very good reviews here as well.

I do look up who the Kenmore mftr is.
Link to Sears appliance codes

Please don't get a side-by-side fridge. I can't stand mine. I am waiting for it to die, as I cannot economically replace it since it is working fine. Side by side means you you have no real horizontal space, despite that the "cubic feet" seems higher in side-by-sides. Especially now at holiday time, the issue is really apparent. A turkey? Nope, will have to shove it in and hope the front-to-back space is deep enough to get it to fit. All the sides? Well, yes, if you allocate one or two per shelf. A tray of hors d'oeuvres? Nope. Pizza? No way.

Get a bottom freezer style. Since you don't want water in the door, you can have even more useful space. Also, if your kitchen is not big, you may want to think about a counter-depth fridge instead of the full-depth fridge you mentioned.

Roccogirl, to me that's a reason to avoid kenmore, rather than assuming kenmore is "okay." You can't assume it is okay. You don't know what you are getting. One model might be made by a manufacturer who has a history of making great refrigerators and another by one who has a history of making clinkers.

Or you can look it up online to find out who makes the model you are considering.

Though my Sears appliance buying/servivicing experiences have been so dreadful that I just refuse to do business with them anyway and the lack of transparency on "kenmore" is just one more small mark in the don't bother column.

@crl - Having the ability to look up the manufacturer that practigal posted makes all the difference. Personally, I wouldn't recommend Kenmore for a NYC apartment since there's no Sears I know of in the area. But I'm only familiar with Manhattan. No idea about other boroughs.

Pbly doesn't matter, since I read that once again, Sears appears to be on its last legs.

We built a house and bought a Maui condo in 2001 -- new appliances for each.

I just replaced a GE sXs in the condo with the same. It was fine, but I was worried it would fail, and I would wait six weeks for another to get to Maui. Two slim doors are real space-savers. I dislike the flapping French door fridges; you are mostly opening both doors. The condo doesn't have space to pull out a bottom freezer anyway. (Dishwasher is opposite -- also GE.)

I've had three or four GE sXs fridges w/water in the door for over 40 years without any problems. Our 42" GE Monogram sXs works perfectly.

At our home, I've just replaced my Fisher & Paykel dishdrawers with same. Quiet, convenient, water and energy-savers.

My bottom-of-the-line Frigidaire front load washer and dryer are working fine. A house-sitter overloaded the first washer. I replaced it with same. I could replace again and be money ahead over having started with a Samsung or other widely advertised washer, with 'features' I don't use.

I do not plan to 'build in' any more appliances. Appliances fail, and the new models will have different styles or dimensions.

I would strongly recommend a Bosch or Miele -- and for you to consider the noise ratings. The Elux model you've chosen is not bad (49 db) but you can do better (42 to 44db) for about the same money with a better dw overall.

In our left coast big city 2nd home, our loft was renewed with a Bosch suite. We chose a suite rather than the usual ideal mix/match for function because it is open to the main living area. Berta was strongly considered, as the modern aesthetic is appreciated in our city. We also suffer with a lack of external ventilation.

The fridge you picked is quite large and deep for a 2Br condo (35 5/8" deep). For our real estate market, we went for the counter depth, to keep things looking somewhat more streamlined. The old fridge (a Kenmore S/S, btw) stuck out quite a bit and looked clunky in the space. If you have plenty of space, it's not an issue.

I am with chisue don't build in AND I would be sure to have a standard space so that they can be easily replaced. Most appliances are not built to last 30+ years, most have a seven year window, so if you plan on staying there you are likely to need to replace them