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TG turkey perfectly cooked - except for one thigh ???
Comments (17)" Posted by lindac --I big cold turkey in a pot of hot water is a good way to keep the meat at just the proper temperature for bacteria growth. Much better to put it directly into the oven. " This topic of cause can lead to an endless heated discussion. Still, let me give it a try. What first gave me the reasons to try to find a way that led me to use my method: 1. A frozen 20-lb turkey will take five to six days to thaw in the frig, and there is never room in a freezer to keep a turkey. We all know how much other stuff you have to get for the Thanksgiving dinner in the refrigerator. 2. A turkey from the frig directly to oven, takes too long to cook to reach safe temperature all the way deep inside, and by that time, the meat outside, thatÂs more than half of the turkey, is very overdone, tough and dry. Or worst, the inside meat is still bloody when you are serving to your friends and family. Please understand that I am not recommending to anyone to be unsafe. The many cities I have traveled to outside of this country, including Argentina (meat capital of the world) and recently to Paris, it is not unusual for meats to be sold without refrigeration for the whole day. Pathogens can grow in the refrigerator temperature as well. Generally, it is considered unsafe for temperature to be from 41 to 140 degrees (I think, please check for accuracy). The other important factor is time. Given it enough time, anything can go bad. That why it doesnÂt take long for meats to go bad in a frig. I hate to think what is going on in an uncooked turkey for more than six days in a frig. Here is what I have been doing for more than ten years. Reserve in advance a turkey from the supermarket. Pickup the frozen turkey on Thanksgiving day. Prepare hot water to about 120 degrees. Dump frozen turkey with its plastic bag in hot water, and keep water temperature at about 120 to 130 degrees. I donÂt know if this is absolute correct, I never timed it. Depending on how big and how frozen the turkey is, about an hour later, the whole turkey is completely warmed up ready for seasoning and stuffing. Because the turkey is hot (but not cooked) at this time, it does not take long in the oven for the temperature to reach 165 deep inside without overcooking the outside. Just simple law of thermal dynamics. The entire process gives very little time and opportunity for harmful pathogens to multiply. I advice you not to use my method. It is unorthodox. Go cold turkey. :-) dcarch...See MoreHave you cooked a turkey on convection roast?
Comments (42)Shoot- just wrote a long comment/question and it seems to have lost it. I just read this whole thread. I have cooked loads of turkeys but this will be first on convection. I have an almost 21# bird in the freezer (moving to frig tomorrow -Sunday). I usually brine but wanted to use less this year to be able to use the broth/drippings. I usually start breast-side down. I just read Pioneer Woman's article on trussing, so I am planning on doing that. I don't stuff but am open to the idea of putting butter and/or stuffing under the skin. (If it was going to be stuffed under the skin right before roasting, wouldn't it be okay to use my own stuffing recipe with eggs?) I have a digital probe thermometer that will beep when the set temp is reached. Question- How much salt is enough in brine solution and yet not too much to make the broth overly salty? I like MOIST flavorful turkey- I love gravy. I cannot stand the chokingly dry white meat my in-laws served years ago. ugh. That's what I really want to avoid....See MoreCooking a farm-raised turkey for the first time
Comments (11)I have cooked a fresh farm raised turkey for the last 8 years. Here's my two cents worth: I don't brine or salt the turkey. I hate the texture brining gives the bird and I'm sensitive to over salty foods. I make a compound butter with butter, garlic, paprika and beer or white wine. I rub the compound inside the bird and place some under the skin everywhere I can fit it. I melt the remainder to use for basting. Placed turkey on a rack in a roasting pan, add a little wine or water to the bottom of the pan and place in preheated 450 oven, close the oven door and reduce the heat to 275. I baste the bird every hour or two until an instant read meat thermometer inserted in the thickest part of the thigh reads 160-165. You are looking to get a finished temp of 165. The bird will continue to cook while resting covered with foil. Resist the temptation to overcook. These birds are less fatty and have no solution added so the margin for error is smaller. Remove the bird from the oven and cover with foil. Allow the bird to rest for 30-40 minutes. Carve and serve. There is very little extra juice for gravy with these birds as they are not injected with sodium solution. I usually roast some necks, backs and wings with celery, carrots, onions and garlic and make stock a few days ahead of time for gravy and stuffing. Also they seem to cook faster than store bought birds. For example for me a 40 lb. unstuffed bird cooks in about 6 hours....See MoreCooking the turkey - questions and slight panic.
Comments (36)Renovator - I think I'm going to look into the bags for next time. Delilah - :) I think I could handle them! I would totally buy a precooked turkey too if I could get my hands on one. Kitschy and Sherry - Oh my!! All the planning and prep... the day goes so fast. I used regular old bake mode, stuffed the turkey, and followed Butterball's directions this year. It was good. I didn't use the probe because my pan was too deep and I just could see it turning into a mess. I'm going to test out the roast mode more and stuffing the turkey later while it rests. We had lots of food left over. The paper/styrofoam products weren't too big of a deal. They ended up being used more for dessert and the aunt did bring a few food items which I thought was also nice. Almost everyone showed up early while I was trying to finish up and wanted to help. You know how that goes - everything gets jammed up and hectic fast, lots of question flying at you, the list goes on! There definitely will be a layout change someday with the kitchen. It was a nice day. My kitchen looks like a bomb went off and I'm looking the other way. Tomorrow it's clean up, Christmas decorating, and leftovers! ETA - Yesterday I managed to somehow hurt my ring finger while putting away dry dishes. No clue what I did but it felt like I stoved my finger. About 10 min. later while making peach cranberry sauce I managed to tear off a large chunk of nail (back into the nail bed) on the middle finger on the same hand while grating orange zest. After the initial scream all I could do was laugh at that point. (Later the ring finger actually hurt worse than the missing nail.) Cleaned it up, bandaged up, and wore a sexy glove almost full time ever since. Ring finger is normal again today and missing nail is ....well, still missing. :)...See More- 10 years ago
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