Okay so I just added earth juice catalyst for some micro nutes. Since it is the first night and I uprooted these very young seedlings I am letting it run til I go to bed in few hours. The coir doesn't feel soaking wet it actually feels pretty dry almost completely dry on top and just barely wet on the bottom. the spray is hitting it from the bottom so I may need to add more than an hour at a time to let the spray wick through the coir better. I thought the spray would have soaked it more by now but it seems to be fine as of right now not over wet like I thought it might get. I want it to get nice and filled with nutes the first time. I didn't add nutes when I initially soaked them in PH adjusted water this afternoon. the catalyst I just added is .03-.01-.10 and its derived from oat bran, sea kelp,wheat malt,molasses and yeast.

this seedlings in this picture is 40 days young

I'm so glad you posted. I need some advice. how often should I run the spray. should I run it constantly.are those rapid routers you started your seeds in or is that specific for the machine you have and if so what is it made of? and how do you do your nutes? do you have a link to a thread about your growing experience I know I've seen your set up in the past. I just don't know which thread it was. I was looking through your other pictures I was wondering what that milky substance you soak your plants roots and seeds in is it some kind of anti fungal treatment? Do you sell seeds? thanks for posting.

Just wanted to keep this forum updated started some black pearls in an aerogarden and they are doing amazing so much so that I purchased another aerogarden the first three pictures they are around day 17 or 18

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Bob this photo is of an AeroGarden? Is that correct. I have never seen one with so many slots.

Bob if you are looking to purchase the Smart Pots in bulk, I also use the Root Pouch which is of similar quality that can be purchased in quantities of 10 and 25 for a significant savings from my favorite online gardening store, Greenhouse Megastore.

Isn't there a fast-forward button on your thread, Bob? I want to see these seedlings three years from now!

Pagan

Hey Pagan, It took some trial and error. I am now starting my seeds in an aerogarden set up and will be transferring them over to the clone machine once they get bigger. from there into a fast draining medium maybe ebb and flow set up or possibly soil. But I want them to be a certain size first. I have been posting pics of my aero babies on other threads, but you are right I should keep this thread updated. so here are some pics of my aero-babies and I will also get some new pics in the next day or two.

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I have to post the 30-35 day photos and then the most recent which is about 40 days. I will have to do that later tonight from my phone. That's where I have those pictures. They are working on their 4th and 5th sets of leaves now at around 40 days. I want to snip their leaves back so bad but I am too nervous, so I will just wait to see how they grow. I also have a bunch started in another aero machine. i will get pictures up later. They are between a week and a couple days old. I'll keep everyone posted as I find the time to update.

The Root Pouch is completely fabric. It is very similar to the Smart Pots.

Thanks I wasn't sure what they were made of but they were very affordable at come in much smaller sizes to start. I think I will try them out this spring along with the fabric pots and do some comparisons.

Hi Bob, I wanted to share an observation with you. I am sizing up my Dino Plants for a repot to larger fabric pots. What I am seeing is a significant difference in size when comparing a fabric Smart Pot to a fabric Root Pouch purchased from Greenhouse Superstore. The Root Pouches are much smaller. They are still a great quality, but their 3 gallon looks more like 1 gallon. Their 5 gallon is about 3 gallons. This is in comparison with Smart Pots.

Bob you won't be able to single out the Soco traits until the plant is much older, at least 3 to 6 months before it starts developing its true shape and branch structure. Perhaps even longer than this. I am still new to the Thai Soco world and learning.

Tracy

Looking great by the way!

Some plump looking fatties there Bob! The ones you pinched are showing promise too. I am curious to see how long they can stay in this foam tray before needing to be transplanted.

Tracy

I will have to get a picture up soon of the bottom of the foam tray. Roots have made their way down and are growing down into the aerated reservoir below. I think the biggest problem will be room up above, with where the leaves will go. Most of these will be put into the same cups that the ones in the other garden are in and into the black cloning machine in the first post. I have a few RCN seedlings in the cloner right now. I used a different type pellet for those and started them out on a different nutrient diet. I've changed the nutrients since. and I think the lighting is about just right for when I add these Arabicums into the tent. Hopefully they will continue growing like they do in the aero garden once the change is made.

Very cool indeed, Bob. I forgot to mention to you, I have found a couple more of my Brazilians with the darker reddish skin since we last chatted about them. I am noticing the skin color change on some of them to a reddish brown color. Hope this means you can get a few with the nice coloring too.

Tracy

Bob they look nice and stocky! Congrats to you on getting moved. Sounds like some of these are starting to perform well for you. The nodes are close together which is exactly what you want to see at this age. I look forward to seeing them progress.

Tracy

They look great Bob. I would advise against cutting any of the leaves at this young age.

Bob, your hypertufa pots are really nice. A lot of fun actually making these.

I wish I could remember the name of the solution a chemist friend used to soak these in to stop or arrest the lime and curing process from being an issue for plants.

I had made two and soaked them for awhile. Not long enough and I almost lost one of my large Arabicums. I have had them outside in the elements since last spring now.

Definitely soak in water for a long time.

Rick

Hi, Bob -

Please share an update on the seedlings you placed in the EZ Cloner & AeroGarden in late 2015. How did those fare in comparison to each other and soil grown specimens?

Thanks.

- Maria Elena

I'm "Bob" I was using my partners account for this thread. My seedlings were looking really good they had all branched out by early Oct 2016 and were nice little fatties with round ping pong size caudex and 3-5 branches. Unfortunately i moved to a new place that had alot of property, but no room to grow indoors. I went on a trip to Florida and was afraid it was going to get too cold so I had a roommate bring them into a hoophouse that was on the property, with all the rest of my tender plants. The hoop house was unventilated and there were a couple days where the temps bounced back to the low to mid 90s, the hoop house temps got to around 115-120+ degrees F. The sap in all my adenium, plumerias, and dorstenias "boiled" and exploded. i was devistate when i came home to a bunch of boiled exploded plants. because of this I decided to start growing and collecting succulents that are cold hardy so I didnt have to do the succulent shuffle. after the trauma of loosing all my adeniums I stopped coming on the forum. I miss adeniums lots though and im planning a move to southern california partly so i can start growing plants that wont make it through my winters up here in north east california. About 80 percent of my motivation to move has to do with growing these plants year round outside. im hoping to be living down south by mid to end dec 2017. The peat plugs that they were started in, in the aerogarden were planted into pots and the adeniums were starting to establish real nice too. the only plants that survived the tragedy were four of my fockea edulis which started putting out new growth late in the spring 2017.. my fockeas even survived the winter with little protection since i thought they were just pots with soil in them. i thought they had died too. when i do start adenium seeds again it will be hydroponically. until then im growing lots of sempervivums,jovibarbas, aloes, haworthias and gasterias. ive also just started working a little with echeverias, but they still make me nervous that it might get too cold in the winter here for them. I took offsets from a friend who has them in her garden year round, and i akso planted mine into the ground, so they should be good with a light cover even with a short freeze. sorry I dont have them anymore to show pictures!