Legumes (beans) poor man's protein.
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Shelled Black Jungle Butter Beans.
Comments (65)Hi, I've been lurking and learning on GW for quite a while now, and finally decided I'd better post something. Harry shared the wonderful Black Jungle beans with us and they are producing delicious beans here in Northern California. Typically, we don't get limas until August/September, and this year the BJ's were first. We've had a very cool summer. We are also starting to get Gigandes (the lima, not the runner bean), Speckled Calicos, Dreer's Improved, and Illinois Giants, but haven't yet eaten Dr. Martin's or any of the bush limas, which we got in later (German Red Bush, Fordhook, Dixie Butterpea and Jackson Wonder). Does anyone here grow the Gigandes lima? It is the largest seeded lima that we've grown, and yet it seems to cook more quickly than other limas. As soon as it hits the water, the seed coat splits, and the beans I cooked tonight (from yellowing pods) were done in 15 minutes! This is the first year here for both BJs and Gigandes. Also, I wanted to mention that the German Red Bush lima is different from Dixie Speckled Butterpea. I got the German Red Bush seed from a place in Pennsylvania (http://www.landisvalleymuseum.org/2011seeds.pdf). This is our second year growing the GRs. Hope we'll get some beans to harvest soon. Glad you got to enjoy some, Harry! Jana Here is a link that might be useful: Landis Valley...See MoreLegums are good to be around
Comments (29)BofB: I looked at the article you cited, and have a couple of problems with it. The most important of which is that it doesn't even address your contention, let alone demonstrate it. On top of that, the article is badly written, confusing, and, most of all, _lacks any citations_. I have never heard any reliable nutritional source make the claim that mixed pulses would provide all the essential amino acids. And, despite your smugness, it is an established fact that soy is the only bean that does. Which is precisely why soy is such an important part of the vegan diet. From your linked article, here is a chart showing which essential amino acids are missing from various foods: Protein source/ Limiting amino acid Wheat/ lysine Rice /lysine Maize /lysine and tryptophan Pulses /methionine (or cysteine) Beef/ phenylalanine (or tyrosine) Egg, chicken none; the reference for absorbable protein Milk or Whey,/ bovine methionine (or cysteine) In terms of RDAs, methionine is one of the highest. And that's precisely what's missing from most beans. But look at the wheat, rice, and maize (corn) just above them and you see how a bean with a grain provides all that you need. It doesn't take much to achieve balance. As Chaman points out, a couple of slices of bread, or a handful of crackers with a bowl of lentil soup will provide it. In much of the world, meat is either absent from the diet or is used more as a flavoring agent than as a main component of the diet. Look at how those peoples eat and you'll always find a combination of beans & grains in their diets; sometimes combined, as in the ubiquitous beans & rice, and sometimes in separate dishes served at the same time, as in Chaman's lentil soup and bread. In tems of human health, the man who said "bread is the staff of life," was wrong. What he should have said was "bread and beans are the staff of life."...See MoreInsuk's Wang Kong (Runner bean)
Comments (151)Here are the IWK beans and the rustic trellis I built for them. I am getting my first flowers. You might see that some of the leaves look really bad. I planted last october and they grew OK, but then completely stopped growth. They did not grow at all for about 3 months. They also seem to be afflicted with something (? not sure what?) and I really thought I was going to lose them. Ever since the spring equinox we got small fresh leaves that started to sprout/grow and they are looking much better. I even got my first flowers. I am really curious if anyone has observed this apparent sensitivity to day length? I suppose for me the best would be to plant on the winter solstice? or a bit after? In case you are curious it is celery, parsley and cilantro interplanted with them....See MoreBeans for Oklahoma
Comments (44)Dale, I haven't grown flageolets either, but they are phaseolus vulgaris and you grow them the same way you grow any other bean. We're partial to Romano-style beans and I grow several varieties of them along with regular beans. I think the type of flageolets that SSE has is the regular green ones? Johnny's Selected Seeds always has at least one type of flageolet although the odds are it will be a hybrid variety and not an heirloom. If you like to look for varieties that are a bit different, you might enjoy looking at the selection of Franchi Simenti seeds offered by Seeds from Italy. I have grown some wonderful melons and beans purchased from Seeds from Italy. Some of their varieties are the same ones we have here, but there are a few that I've never or rarely seen offered in the U.S. Dawn...See More
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8 years agoFound this D KO pic from this past June when they were smaller...
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoI've been looking at smaller PERENNIAL bushes for out front... I like these Dwarf Golden leafed Japanese Hollies... 12"-18" high and wide...
Brass Buckle Japanese Holly:
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoThings more open now Sam since I removed those 6-7ft tall & wide Dogwood Bushes...Besides harboring ticks they blocked the view of the backyard roses/flowers...
I'm putting Christmas lights up along that fence...
Are you making any changes next year Sam?
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoCarol here is a pansy pic from this year. Sadly pansy does not seem to do well here...
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Here's a picture of my wheelbarrow from this summer. Of course I drilled holes through it first.
Carol
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8 years agoYes, I love yellow and blue!!!! So pretty!!!!
The yellow against the blue is very pretty!
I really love phlox!!! So pretty!
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoLooks great Carol! Great color combo!
Next year will be a experiment in flowers/colors for me...lol... I'm exploring beyond Marigolds and Petunias...lol
Orange and blue I like also:
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8 years agoFree mulch and compost! That's awesome!!
I love purple and orange!
Have you ever tried irises?
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8 years agojim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoNope never tried Iris Carol...Your Iris looks great Carol! A Nice blue! :-)
Want to hear something cool? lol...Anyways pansy flowers do not grow well here BUT a tiny Pansy flower appeared out of nowhere in the crack of our sidewalk back in June... My wifes grandpap & my sister whom are both deceased loved pansies...
The little pansy was right below our kitchen and bedroom windows. My wife said the pansy was a sign from her grandpap & my sister that they are doing well in heaven and that they are looking over us...
Do you know Carol that little wild pansy is still blooming as of today! The only thing blooming here...lol... Frosts killed everything else a couple weeks ago...
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoI have a 4 foot fence with roses just a couple feet from the fence. In May when the roses are smaller I plant flowers along the fence behind the roses. When the roses grow larger than I have problems getting back there...
So I'll have to start just planting flowers in front of roses where I can easily get to them....lol... I'll figure something out...
I have a impulse to deadhead as soon as I see spent blooms...lol... And with each flowering plant having 20-40 blooms each most of the season it just becomes to much after awhile. Marigolds do not rest here at all...Nor does petunias...
Next year I'll have different flowers so will see how it goes...
I'll figure out a solution...Even if I have to attend deadheading impulses Anonymous meetings...lol
We own 15 inches of property on the other side of fence (toward neighbor)... If I planted flowers on that side of fence I could easily reach them... So that's a thought...
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8 years agolast modified: 8 years agoSam: I saw your question: "Are mung beans different than peas?" Yes, peas is from a pod, and mung bean is in the legume family, like lentils and navy beans. Check out mung-bean nutritional profile, very high in folate (good for allergies, esp. those who can't convert folic acid to folate). Yellow-mung-bean is without the green-cover, and the whole-mung-bean is used in making beansprout. VERY IMPRESSIVE NUTRITION:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mung_bean
My VN friend gave me "Banh Chung" for Chinese New Year. It's made out sticky-rice, with yellow mung bean in the center, and pork. It's sold early Feb. (Chinese New Year). With my pneumonia I have a really bad craving for that stuff .. so nutritious & rich in B-vitamins. But yellow mung bean has to be fresh, like from Oriental store. I once bought stale yellow-mung-bean, and it stank.
Yellow mung-bean is NOT the same as yellow-split-pea. Yellow mung-bean cooks in a much shorter time (15 min. if soaked overnight), and more nutritious than yellow-split-peas. If you compare the nutritional profile of yellow mung-bean to yellow-split-peas .. this falls short, see below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_pea
Below is a picture of "Banh Chung" or Vietnamese New year cake, it's like rice-yellow-mung-bean-pork dish in a bun, very filling .. I can easily lose weight with this. We eat that with Kimchi or pickled shallots:
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