Miele 48" duel fuel vs. wolf 48" all gas?
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Oh No! Wolf 48' All Gas in my new kitchen
Comments (53)Yep. FWIW at this point, I can understand. You had been planning a kitchen renovation, and in that renovation your dreams included a specific type of range, and then you decided not to renovate and the alternate plan landed you with something that was not quite what you had hoped for. It's natural to be a little disappointed. A "so close but yet so far" type of thing--and the money it's worth or even the gas vs. duel fuel is not really the issue. Whether it was the above referenced Hotpoint you wanted and you ended up with a Magic Chef, or you had your heart set on gas and ended up with electric--the fact that it's a hugely expensive stove is not the issue here. You were hoping for one thing and got something else. I think that your reaction is completely natural, and I think that you are getting over it--also completely natural. Like any other disappointment in life, you deal with it and move on. You just had a "moment" and shared it with the group, some of whom took it in stride and some who decided that it was a monetary issue, and that you don't have the right to be disappointed in something that expensive. :-) However, I think the best piece of advice that you received is to live with it awhile, put it through it's paces, and if it's really not performing the way you wanted it to, and you can afford it, swap it out for something that's closer to what you wanted. If I understand correctly, the dual fuel Wolf you wanted is not going to fit in the space you have anyway, so you might as well see if you can make this one work. As others have pointed out, the resale value is not going to change much between now and later, so you might as well give it a go. Good luck, Cj...See MoreMiele T 9820 Gas Dryer Kaputt
Comments (21)If you pull the service manuals for the Octoplus machines they are different. The outside basic shell is the same, but what went inside was different. The professional machines have full stainless inner and outer drums. Stainless vs Aluminum spider. The shocks are much beefier. The drum is horizonal and not inclined. There is no captive rubber boot for the door. The last one is why Miele won't sell the octoplus to residential customers. It is possible to get little fingers caught between the door and frame. The upside is that without a boot there are lot fewer problems with water being retained in a boot and you get a better seal. They are setup for external chemical dispensing. Designed to last 30k instead of 10k hours. Etc. Etc. Miele made too many compromises with the 27" residential units. It backfired on them. Now they only offer their worldwide residential 24" and professional 24" and up sizes. There was never a gas version of the octoplus dryer that I was aware of. It was electric only. The electric versions of the T98xx dryer had fewer problems. Most of which were related to the machine being overloaded. The octoplus is rated to hold a full drum worth of clothes. The residential models were not. It was very easy to put 1.5 to two times the amount of clothes in the residential drum vs what they were rated to hold. For marketing and customer education that is really up to the reseller. Some dealers are really good and others just sell you the appliance and you are on your own. Miele's manuals are fantastic. Much better than almost every other manufacturer. Many people do not read the manual cover to cover so they are unaware of all of the available options and any required ongoing maintenance. We are a family of 13 people now and we have ONE set of W1/T1 laundry. We do ALL of our laundry in them. From towels to dress shirts, wool pants and sweaters, sanitize when needed. Never had one problem with them. I did replace the foam filter on the dryer which is in front of the condenser after 3000 hours as it was starting to wear out. (This was mentioned in the manual) I think looking at the size of the new washer/dryer gives a lot of people pause. It is NOT an issue if you are accustomed to doing laundry every day. With the size of our family it is 4-6 loads per day. We can put 12-14 Costco size bath towels in one load for perspective. You can fill the drum all the way up as long as you don't pack it tight and lean on the door to get it closed everything will come out clean. It's too bad you didn't have better luck with your current appliances. I can see how that would taint your view of Miele....See MoreMiele W48xx Onboard water heater...Definitive Answer
Comments (40)I immigrated over years ago tothe US from Europe. All I wanted was a European front loading washer wit temperature indicator. I used the public laundromat until I finally nailed down a Miele. The machine came directly from the NJ headquarters, with technicians who installed the washer and dryer und installed the 220V line from the the opposite side of my house. My hot water heater is also on the opposite side. Cold water connection only. Usually houses had a 220V plug for a dryer, but the previous owner used gas. Both machines are electrically connected through the floor. First set lasted 15 Years. With help of a appliance center who searched for me all over the US, I was able to get a second set W and D , 220V , cold water inlet only. My machine lasted 19.5 years, it is leaking. The dryer still works perfect. I am upset what Miele has done to us loyal followers! First they got rid of the 220V motor, then they got rid of the internal heater and connected to hot and cold water, like the average US idiot is used to. My kitchen faucet takes 3 gallons of cold water run untill the hot water comes.( I collect the water for plants). So the washer would really never have hot tap water. So Miele and Bosch and all the other front loaders scewed us over with their hot water connection! At least Bosch kept 220 V , wich is especially important for dryers. But they all also seem to get rid of vented dryers and try to tell us that every thing is better. Just read how many complain about slow dryers! I am at my wits end. es...See Moreshopping for 48" gas range
Comments (17)With each remodel we've considered DCS and both times choose Wolf and been quite happy (except for ignitors). This time we looked at DCS briefly but quickly eliminated them. I can't remember the reasons at this point. Seems the griddle was a major item though. I am still a slight bit concerned about the thinner griddle on the BS and the smaller broiler. I very often hold pans under the broiler for a bit so hopefully that won't be an issue. Our first Wolf was open burner, current is semi-sealed. Both have worked well so long as you don't mind manually lighting them. Wolf now, like DCS, offers only sealed burners. These throw a lot out heat out to the side of pans rather than at the bottom where it's needed. They not only waste energy but unnecessarily heat up the kitchen and the area where you're trying to work. . They also seem to heat up the sides of pans more. I want heat along the bottom and prefer the sides to remain as cool as possible. BS open burners should put more of the heat to the bottom of the pan where its desired. From talking to a lot of people, cleaning is the same effort regardless. Our oven stack is: Miele warming drawer, Miele electric oven, Miele combi steam, GE Advantium Fastbake/MW. Same as we currently have except addition of Combi....See MoreAustin B
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