Liam never hard feelings life us way to short . How many to many . Hobby artisan would love to see your pics.

Brian

Steve Miewa looks teerriffic . Your doing something right .

Brian

Sorry your leaving but as far as mike apologizing for the rude behavior to you, no you were the one being rude. You went off on a tirade for nothing. I didn't even know you existed so that was your fault only.

mike not to start a fight but read that thread again before saying people were being rude to him.

for anyone who doesn't know what we are referring to please read for yourself

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3490648/grapefruit-soil-change?n=80

In fact I went out of my way to not feed into your rudeness. I specifically did not want a repeat of the argument I had with mike.

Oh and you do have beautiful trees

Excuse me ! but this is unnecessary. I started the original All things citrus and the bugs threads. This was a nice place where we exchanged information, helped one another but most of all had respect for others This is the very reason I am leaving this form. Mike and Brian are both exceptional human beings and are not only helpful but kind and caring. So PIp knock it off and stop causing trouble. And looking for attention.. It is very unbecoming. Maggy

I wasn't the one who started this fight and I'm not about to let people apologize for me when I went out of my way to not escalate it.

The op of that thread even asked Brian to stop being rude.

I did thank him in that thread we argued in. And buried the hatchet. But I'll do it again. Thanks mike you do give good advice.

and Maggie, sorry you are leaving but it's clear you didn't read the thread because I tried my hardest to calm the situation down not escalate it. I provided a link so please do read it.

You too are leaving Maggy! So sorry to find all my friends are leaving. I have enjoyed talking with you and will dearly miss reading your posts. It has been fun and interesting for me.

Cory

Cory. Thank you. As you know my friend is terminally ill and it is taking much of my energy helping her and often I am very tired . I will keep in touch with you . This forum certaintly is not what it was and yes it was fun and we shared a lot. Will be in touch. Hugs Maggy

Thanks Maggy. Do keep in touch. You too Brian. I will really miss you both.

Cory

Will for sure . Maggy

I will miss you to Cory a ton . Maybe one day you will let Maggy give me your email I would soooooo love to keep in touch with you . Both you and Maggy are real gems .

Brian

@ Pip, the past is the past

@ Orangelime seriously, how many trees do you have?

So many people are leaving to!!!

Patty left too. She was very knowledgable.

its the end of fall. I bet come spring some will be back

Yes, please Maggy, give Brian my email address. I would like to keep in touch with him too.

Cory

*Yawn*, lets all take are winters nap...

For the people who are leaving just a thought: you at one time needed the help and mentoring of others on this site and have obviously gained a lot from their expertise.

Part of the mentor/mentee (is that a word?) relationship is that once the mentee becomes the mentor you must pay it forward to the next generation of those in need of help. That's how it works.

I understand there has been some miscommunication but I hope you guys will reconsider, take some time off, and then come back refreshed, perhaps in the spring. Rebirth and all that. Thanks!

That's nice, but don't guilt them into it. If they are busy with real life stuff then let them be.

Pip...You missed the part of Hobby's statement that said..." I hope you guys will reconsider, take some time off, and then come back refreshed, perhaps in the spring. Rebirth and all that". Thanks!

It's called 'kindness' and a desire to let them know how much they were appreciated...Must you use the two edged sword again? Just saying)

Either you don't see where you can come off apthathetic and crude, or it's being done on purpose..Since when have any of you ever been interested enough to post in this thread or what others think of how you interact with others here? Someone must of pointed this thread out to you, the part that you thought was referring to you..I know..

I have nothing against you and in fact can take what others can't, and I intend to stick around because I enjoy in helping others with nothing expected in return, but meeting Brian and Maggy has been a huge payoff that nothing can compare to here. Call it a fringe benefit in helping others). They will be missed and I am not saying that to make them feel guilty)

There are many that come here to meet others and make friends, share their experiences and look for kind words and great advice while others could give a hoot about others , add their two cents and move on. Maggy said it well for those who prefer not to have dealings with the later...

I have to agree with my dear friend Mike. Thank you HobbyArtisan for your thoughts. Something to consider .Pip it seems that you are here to criticize and bully others. In the 12+ months you have never visited this thread or contributed in a positive way. So why are you suddenly here making judgements and negative comments. I will not be responding to you again because it just feeds into your behaviour

Ok, tried to be nice.

dont let the door hit ya on the way out.

If that is what you call 'trying' to be nice, then I give you credit for making an effort....But what explains this one? Just saying............See if you get what others are trying to show you and help you to improve on..

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3477841/join-me-in-mourning?n=29..

Also you guys are the one keeping this going. You brought it up. She brought it up. He brought it up.

im only responding to your guy's posts.

Mike, yes asking him to not guilt someone into staying who doesn't have the time to is nice.

ive never contributed in a positive way? Ok. All the people who thank me are doing it because of Jedi mind tricks.

Pip, your missing the whole point..It's a shame..You would be so much more resourceful here if you surrounded yourself with people who reacted to your apllying of empathy, humility, and kindness and in teaching others the right concepts about citrus combined....That's all

Hi I'm a she if that matters give the lady a break wouldja? Lol

Sorry hobby.

sorry everyone else not involved in this.

i was rude in the past. I've tried to calm down. But to say I was the rude one in the thread in question is just flat wrong. I did my best to ignore the attacks on me in that thread and I'm still the bad guy.

Thanks no worries! Great so we are all moving on, rebirth right?
Namaste! Hee hee

Anyway, my Grapefruit is growing crooked, it was exactly like that when i got it, i thought it would straighten out with sun light, the weird thing is that its going from the sun!

This is my chinotto sour orange, the apple of my eye. I don't know if this pic does it justice but the form of it is so beautiful, really sweeping dangly arms. And quite a bit of fruit, they are just hidden in the foliage.

Here is my bearss, another favorite of mine. So excited for those big limes to ripen!

Here is the yuzu, I love the growth habit of this one as well. No fruit or flowers yet but it has doubled in size since I got it in June.

Here we have the kaffir on the left and the Meyer on the right. I have had that Meyer for almost 3 years but I abused it not knowing what to do with it. Low light, composty mix all the worst amateur mistakes. This summer I got serious and since changing everything it has exploded. I have some promising looking flowers on it now so fingers crossed!

Not pictured are my Nagami kumquat, venous orange, satsuma mandarin, key lime and Australian finger lime. I'll save those for next time.

Notes: I have little stools on order to get the pots up off the concrete floor. Also after stakegate lol I plan to remove the stakes. It is super windy here but not inside obviously.

Hobby artisan . I just had to write you love the pics . Your no amateur that's for sure . Your plants are looking soo healthy wow wow . Love the setup looks mighty bright in that room . Your chinnoto looks amazing I almost bought one watch out for the thorns. No collection would be complete without a bearss lime . Wow amazing tree's Hobbyartisan. If your ever interested in buying more citrus Maggy and I bought a Kishu from Sage Garden Greenhouse's in Winnipeg amazing plants and customer service you will love them and they have a nice collection . Do you take your trees out in the spring and does it take long to adapt them to the outdoors ? Take care and thx again for showing the pics.

Liam your tree looks much better! ! I have 12 citrus tree's of different ages and sizes a real handful .

Brian

Thanks! It really does though, but what about the crookedness?

It might be moving away from the sun because it's not ready for full sun. Even if it hardens off and stays that way it's nothing to worry about. New buds will break, new branches will form and the tree will fill in and you'll never know in a few years.

You can shape your tree by tying it tight . You can bend it a little because it is very young then tie to the straightness or shape you want I have done this lots of time's and it will keep that shape after tied for a while .

Brian

Or Liam you can use wires.

Wow thanks so much Brian I certainly didn't expect such rave reviews but I am so pleased! To think they could someday be like yours is an amazing thought!

Yes I love my grow room but a greenhouse is on the horizon, it has to be to take it to the next level. Plus I start all my veg seedlings in there in the spring and it's way too stuffed now!

Also my trees are pretty but tiny still. I wonder if I should taper off the grow fert and switch more to foliage pro to help the trees bulk up a bit?

Yes they go outside in spring but it can be spotty with sudden snowfall and frosts so I have to be vigilant. Also the winds are wicked here and last years spot was way too gusty, I'll have to find a more sheltered spot next year. They seem to be doing better inside out of the wind! Acclimatizing to go outside is surprisingly easy I have found, I just start them out in shade and slowly move to sun.

Thanks again for your encouraging comments they are so appreciated! And thanks for the kishu lead I am definitely going to check that out!

Your very welcome . Your right a GH is the way to go . If you have a Costco membership they sometimes have greenhouses for sale in the spring and fall and they deliver pretty well anywhere. You will love that nursery i mentioned guaranteed and there plants are reasonably price actually very good prices and the delivery charges are excellent and they are not that far from you only one province over lol. Your doing a fantastic job.

Brian

Hobby artisan . I have been buying plants from Sage gardens for 10 years. The owner Dave Hanson is a great person . I have an Allspice tree , cinnamon tree and last year I got my grafted kishu. It is doing great. He will ship it to you . Tell him Margaret from Windsor Ont. referred you. He has a few other citrus as well. Nice to meet another Canadian growing in a cold climate. Best of luck ..if I can be of any help I would be happy to share what I learned here from Brian , Mike and others . I have 16 citrus now . Last summer I only had one. Presently I have fresh Satsuma mandarins. Clementines , Lemons and limes .It is a great hobby .best of luck. Maggy

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Maggy how are the Satsuma's I bet delicious.

Hugs

Brian

Brian is right you can tie it, I've done it too. BUT it seems the tree is trying to protect itself so wait till you get good new growth to let you know the tree is ready for its leaves to get full sun.

Thanks for the referral Maggy I will definitely take you up on that suggestion, I definitely want to grow my collection. Sounds like you are seeing a lot of success I couldn't imagine having so many types fruiting regularly! My dream!

Hope to keep in touch .

Brian. The Satsuma's are amazing. Sweet and so fresh tasting. I got 60 fruit on my tree. Have been giving them away. Much love my friend. Maggy

I'm not really a raver about mandarins, tangerines or any sort of orange relative, but how are Kishus, I've heard very good things about it

Hobbyartisan .My success has been because of the help and support I got here.. And trial and error. Please email me if you want anytime . I would be more than happy to keep in touch. My email maggyemma@hotmail.com

Maggy

Liam, my kishu hasn't produced fruit yet but hear they are very good also. Maggy

Love seeing your trees hobbyartisan. They are growing very nicely. You Canadians really do seem to have a knack for growing your citrus trees. That's probably because you love them so much. Keep up the good work and you will have trees as large and fruitful as Brian's.

Cory

I think the reason the Canada citrus trees are doing so well i because of the new freedoms the have to achieve under their new liberal government. We will have to wait to 2016 to see how our trees will do. They all do look great hobby

Thanks so much Cory, like my avatar says when I embark on a hobby I am deadly serious about it! But I know I still have tons to learn and look forward to spending more time with you guys absorbing your knowledge.

For example I just recently averted crisis I think. My citrus has been doing so well in my room that I recently moved in about 6 of my massive super hot container peppers thinking I could keep em going all winter. Major disaster almost occurred when an aphid infestation exploded and I am still managing it. I removed all the peppers and have been drenching every citrus in the sink a couple times a week with insecticidal soap and I think I nipped it in the bud luckily. Rookie mistake!

Thanks Steve! Appreciate it and thanks for all your great tips so far your light buckets are super cool. Yes it is a hopeful time for us in Canada! I hope the positivity extends to my trees and yours!