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Comments (109)The show that I really like is Bang For Your Buck. On BFYB the camera takes its time and actually shows whole rooms and details with a well-photographed and easy eye. No jarring editing. No dumb "reveal." The owners explain why they remodeled as they did, how and why they made their decisions, what worked and what didn't, etc. Then the designers come in and critique the rooms. Of course, they're supposed to find something wrong, so they always do, even if it's silly. But you actually have a serious discussion of a room by two separate parties. I don't actually care much who got the biggest "bang", but I've gotten a lot of decorating ideas. Love HouseHunters just for choosing the house I like best and guessing which was the one chosen. Some of the stories on HH are very moving. Unless, of course, it's some 20-something whippersnapper who whines about granite or looks at a perfectly usable bathroom and says "dated". In that case, like some other posters here, I yell at him/her to go live in a village in Afghanistan or Iran, where the toilets are literally a hole in the floor (or the ground). Sometimes we don't realize how great our lives are! As an English teacher and cranky grammar-nanny, I do blame HGTV for its cruel assault on our beautiful language. However, I'll spare the forum my lecture. :o)...See MoreOwn Root Revelation!
Comments (34)On the issue of how to grow a young own root rose We plant out young roses actually much smaller than what many of you buy in both spring and in fall. We produce these rooted cuttings in our greenhouse and we do this for our trials not for commercial sales. When you receive the plant pop it out of the container and make sure that the roots are filling the container to the point the roots are dense enough to hold all the soil in place. If not I do not think you are getting what you paid for. I insist on this principle for all plants I buy, not just roses. To be successful what you need to be buying is a well established root system ready to develop a good plant. 2 ) What a young plant needs is good fairly loose (well worked) soil and adequate nutrition and regular water. These young plants have no tolerance for drought (although many roses once established can be quite drought tolerant). So keep this plant moist for the first year. If it does not rain then make sure you water it. 3) My preference for fertilizer is a slow release formula that can be incorporated into the soil at planting. There are formulas that last 4 months or the growing season. That is not to say that other ideas such as compost or a liquid feed will not work - they will but you need to check regularly to make sure the fertilizer is at the right strength. The plant should grow rapidly the first season if all of this is in balance. The reason for pruning a young own root rose is to form a good base with strong stems for future development. Doing this changes the plant from having thin, whippy canes to 3 to 4 strong stems after a season of growing. When your plant arrives if the canes are more than 8 inches tall cut them back to 4-5 inches. If you leave them long then these canes will continue to grow upward and you will end up with those skinny tall plants with a few buds on the top. After planting this pruned plant as it begins to grow it should be vigorous and adding cane caliper. When it reaches about 2 to 2.5 feet give it another light pruning again taking off probably about 4-5 inches. The point of this whole exercise is to force the plant to make new shoots low on the plant which might also be some basal shoots. If the basal shoots start out-growing the rest of the plant come in and cut them back to a height equal or a little lower than the rest of the plant. These should then begin to branch out. This should do it for the first year of growth. Prune the plant again late winter/spring to about 2-3 feet and it should do well in the second year. if you see any basal canes that are too strong prune as outlined above. Enjoy the flowers this season and it should be well on its way to being a good rose. I have seen reference to "octopus plants". Two things can be going on here - not pruning the plant so these extremely long thin canes cannot support their weight so they fall over and begin to grow on the ground. Prune these plants hard and start again as outlined above. The other thing I have seen is that in some roses top pruning forces lateral growth which can also look like a low growing rose. If this happens stop pruning on top and do all the pruning on the side growth and this should correct the problem. My observation is that HTs require more pruning and care to make a good, well branched rose, they just are slower to push basal and side branches. I generally think shrubs and floribundas are more free branching. That is not to say I think HTs don't make good own root roses because I actually think many of them work well. I think there may be more care needed in forming the plant when it is young. Also, occasionally I see images of own root roses that have not thrived on this website. Alive, but not really growing well. I have had this happen in my private garden too. I always attribute it to not getting enough moisture to the plant when it is young. I have found that it is hard to get that rose to turn around and really start growing well in that same season. But what I have done is the following spring I have pruned the rose hard and then put extra attention on fertility and water for the next season and these roses have ended up being really beautiful shrubs. Other general comments on this thread: Jasminerose I think that it is not just climate but also soil and other conditions. A rose planted into heavy clay and another in sand will give totally different result in the dessert even if they are just a few miles away. There is no perfect way to test roses for all the many factors so as someone said above yousometime just need to see what does well for you in your particular climate. optuniamc is there something less valid about Newflora doing the Kordes trialing own root in the USA than Kordes doing it in Germany? Also read my post again we start all roses as budded and then we create own root if it looks interesting. We trial far more cultivars than we will ever introduce in N. America. Something wrong with that? But I agree with you that in your climate a small band pot is going to be challenged to get large enough to make it in the winter which I think is why so many start their own root roses in containers.. Roses need to build a good carbohydrate reserve in the roots to make cold climates and a very young plant probably cannot grow as fast as it needs in a short summer. I think if you bought an older own root plant (as big as the budded roses you buy) you would see quite a different result. Market expectations and economics drive a lot of choices about how roses are grown. Not a discussion I want to get onto on this forum. Kordes does trial and grow own root, but not to the extent we do it at Newflora. Kordes does visit the own root trials in N. America They do still do traditional budding for most sales. As I said even in Europe there is a trend toward more own root production. One last comment to optuniamc- most rose breeders are not getting rich. A few roses like Knockout come along and a breeder does very well, but for the most part it is long, hard work. If you knew how little a breeder gets of the retail price you pay for a rose you might lower your expectations just a bit. Patty - Crazy Love will be on the market for spring 2017 - Palatine has it and there is some own root production, but limited for 2017. How great to bring up Sienna Vigorosa. This is one that is not great on its own roots so it has largely stopped being produced. We did have one Canadian rose grower request the right to bud it. So in a couple of years it should be in the market. Your right it is beautiful....See MoreI Finally did it! My First Rose Seedlings!
Comments (83)In the FWIW department, a couple of years ago, I raised more than 60 seedlings from hips I rescued from a public garden (and a few other roses), and they stayed outside the whole time during a polar vortex winter (planted out after Thanksgiving 2014 with seedlings starting to show up in Jan/Feb 2015). I used my regular potting mix (compost, peat moss, plant-tone and sand), but I used extra sand (just regular all-purpose sand from Lowe's, not builder's sand, which is best for rooting cuttings). The sand promotes drainage, so no issues with damping off. No heat mats, no peroxide, no fungicides. By mid-February I had about 40 seedlings, but others showed up later on. My husband built what we call the squirrel cage (keeps the varmints out, not in) from hardware cloth and piping, and the seedlings stayed protected until they started to outgrow their shared pots and needed their own pots. I think the cage was covered with a tarp when we had freezes, but they didn't go inside or even onto the back porch. Once they achieved some size they were moved to a sheltered place on the ground under a large oak. Dappled shade evidently was sufficient light. More than 60 seedlings was too many, so I let most die through a tough love/attrition process, so theoretically, the surviving 15-20 roses are the toughest of the tough. Most have Noisette parents, but a few are clearly more modern. Here's my post from the propagation forum with a few photos of early blooms... Virginia...See MoreChamblee's Roses Madame Anisette flowering yet?
Comments (32)Thanks, Chris for your kind words. I am a Chris as well. Anyway, Lemon Fizz was one of the roses several years ago our Extension site was trialing for Earth Kind designation for Texas A & M. I remember many of the Master Gardeners liking that rose. The Extension’s Demo rose garden has Poseidon & it is a big rose situated on one of the corner inner berms. Everyone loves its color & fragrance. I didn’t want a big rose in my own garden, so I went with Plum Perfect, another fragrant lavender Kordes rose. I do agree with Chris about the canes of MA being not as pliable to go around an obelisk. I have an open 3 sided obelisk and I put a clematis called ‘Betty Corning’ in the center of it. It has pale blue/white bell shaped flowers, is disease resistant & in my garden it dies to the ground & re-emerges every spring to grace the 3 poles on the interior. At the Extension’s garden it is paired with a climber called Jasmina, another Kordes rose. There it reaches the top of that arbor every year. We lightly prune it in that particular garden area & it doesn’t die to the ground like at my home. In case anyone is wondering, both gardens mentioned are mulched with wood chips/cedar mulch is for my rose garden....See Moremaddielee
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