River Birch trees thrived then died
Lee Bourgeois
8 years ago
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Comments (15)I'm assuming maples don't drop a lot of junk other than in the fall? ===>>> you almost made me cry on that one .. i was laughing so hard .... seed drop in spring.. the dam-ned helicopters ... is a curse worthy of an 8th plague.. not to mention the 8 or 10 billion seedlings ... i suppose it might matter what kind of maple.. but all the generic ones i have dealt with are problematic at best .... maybe if you find a sterile one .... then you said: This patch of yard gets sun from about 10 am to 7pm and it so hot and dry that I have a hard time getting grass to live through the summer. again.. based on those i have dealt with ... most maple will not support vigorous grass under them .... and the pic below shows why.. they are extremely shallow rooted ... and in 20 years or so.. you will be bouncing over those roots with the lawn mower ... it is an understatement to say I HATE MAPLES ... lol.. like most peeps here will testify .. can i have an amen.. lol ... but that is because i garden under trees ... and maples and a few others are the bane of growing just about anything ... now.. whether or not these things will happen in your lifetime.. is the key ... as most of my problems are from mature trees that were on the property when i moved in .... whether you will be there is 20 to 40 years.. when the real problems start .... well that is for you to answer ... my fallback.. in the choice of trees... is ALWAYS oak ... once they get going.. they can grow 3 to 5 feet per year... just under what a maple can do .... and frankly.. no matter what tree you opt for.. there will be a downside ... acorns.. helicopters.. fruit.. nuts .... barren soil underneath .. etc .... so it will all come down to simply your best choice... as i doubt you will ever find the 'perfect' tree ... IMHO ... the key to clay is simply the planting procedure.. allowing them to get established.. and once they do. they are fully capable of putting their roots where they want them ... for the most part ... good luck ken...See MoreRiver Birch dropping leaves
Comments (7)Moisture-related problems would be the first area to check for - too dry (likely with this species) or too wet. If it's the oldest, innermost leaves only that's a definite pointer in that direction. If you poke around in the dirt near the trees and it is neither dry nor wet, then consider sampling soil and having it tested. Try Texas Cooperative Extension for assistance with this, maybe taking leaf samples in to the nearest office (if possible) when you inquire - in case they know of something else that it could be....See MoreRiver birch dropping branches
Comments (8)I have an approximately 50 year old cutleaf weeping birch and it has dropped small twigs/branches for as long as I can remember - not nearly as many as a poplar or willow but always something on the lawn especially after a windy day. It`s not that much of a problem for me but then it`s only 1 tree as opposed to your 4....See MoreHow to make a weeping birch thrive in Utah?
Comments (15)You can probably grow Birch there, it just depends on how much of a battle you want in the way of BBB and how much climate care you want to try to duplicate for it. Birch in my area grow amazingly well, but there is water close by year round (in low areas). This saturates the ground for some distance up into the higher ground. They like to grow at the edges of these swamp like areas, giving the roots a consistently moist soil to thrive. So unless you can provide a mini climate area similar to this maybe pick a different tree? When we camped at the bottom of the Grand Canyon one summer, and saw the beautiful Arizona Sycamore tree growing there (Platanus wrightii), white bark and dappled shade with soft greenish leaves. Might be closer to your area climate wise, idk. There are plenty of things you can 'get to grow' in many areas but are a lot of work and maintenance. I personally like to grow things that 'grows good' where i'm at so once established, they are of little maintenance (unless a prolonged drought comes along every 10 years or so). Reference info: They sell them (Betula penduala) in Utah. I'm sure you could get good, local advice from the nursery there: http://plants.wasatchshadows.com/12190004/Plant/633/Cutleaf_Weeping_Birch/ Remember, they want to sell you something. :-) And a BBB pest and climate problem article from a local news agency: https://www.deseretnews.com/article/159900/UTAHS-CLIMATE-PESTS-CAN-HURT-WHITE-BIRCHES.html Of coarse, deer: :-( The Utah DOW also has articles to successfully grow things there: https://wildlife.utah.gov/habitat/deer-browse.php...See MoreLee Bourgeois
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