larsi_gw...some questions and observations on WaveTouch (Electrolux)

8 years ago

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Larsi_gw...does your new 60 series have the "Allergen" option?

On my 70 series it's only available on the "Deep Clean Sanitize, Heavy Duty, Pet Bed & Kids Wear" cycles.

The option to do an extra rinse (fresh rinse), is already preselected and you can't unselect it. I believe it does 4 rinses by default and spins before each fill. So after the wash portion, it will drain, spin, fill & repeat three more times.

(I could of sworn it did 4 rinses when I watched the whole Deep Clean Sanitize cycle).

The spin before the rinse is awesome to get more water and detergent residue out. I wish it would do that with every cycle. I believe there will be at least one spin before a rinse is the norm for most cycles.

The "Active Wear" cycle puts the spin before the last rinse.

Most will put the spin right after the first drain (of the wash cycle).

I also wanted to ask you about the paddles on your 60 series.

Does your new machine have the larger drum paddles? My 70 series has the shallow paddles. While I don't think it makes much of a difference with regular loads but I think the larger paddles would have a better tumbling effect on very small loads.

I think Electrolux shrunk the paddles on the 70 series so it could squeeze on more cubic foot point out of the drum (4.3 vs. 4.2).

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larsi_gw

8 years ago

Checking wash water Temp today, using Heavy Duty cycle, HOT Temp. About 15-18 mins into the cycle, I paused the machine, opened the door (hot and steamy, but touchable). I placed a candy thermometer into the middle of the wet, laundry....about 125/127F. Not scientific, but I was pleased that the Temp was at this degree, this far into the cycle. I believe Electrolux told me the Sanitize Cycle hits roughly 158/160F. Warm washing is around 85F.

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larsi_gw
8 years ago
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Hi Georgect!

First off, yes my new 60 Series also has the shallow paddles, as did my last 70 Series! I agree, the first generation's larger paddles were probably better for tumbling smaller loads, but I honestly do not do too many small loads, and when I do I use Fast/Express wash or the Colors or Casual programs (they are pretty short).

On the 60 Series, the Allergen program is a set/fixed wash cycle on the main selector dial..it is not an add on option as on the 70 Series. I also have all the Pet beds, Kids cycles, etc, etc, but they are listed under Specialty Cycles (I so rarely access this sub-menu of programs)!!

I almost always use Normal, Heavy Duty, Whitest Whites or Colors!

Allergen Cycle is about 1:15 in length. Pre-selected is Hot water, Fresh Rinse, Max Spin. I do not know if it does 4 rinses since I have never used this cycle, but that makes sense since it is the Allergen cycle. This might be good for kitchen or microfiber towels when one desires or needs absolutely no detergent residues! I will try this program, Thanks George!

I agree the quick, fast spin before the rinses is awesome. I think Electrolux does this, since they use so, so LITTLE water during the rinse cycles. On my last Miele set to Extra Water, the Rinse water levels were like 1/4 up the glass door!! On the Electrolux....you cannot even see the water, yet my clothes are always rinsed and fresh. I wish the Add More Water/Max Fill option on our machines applied to rinses and not just the wash water levels though!!

Is your cu. feet 4.3 or 4.4? My 2015 60 Series is listed as 4.3 cu ft! Sears and our other local store said the wash drums are Identical in size, and where my rpm spin is shown as 1300 and yours 1400....Sears also claims they are identical (marketing hype and price differences).
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georgect
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8 years ago
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larsi_gw
Yes my cubic foot is stated as 4.4. I don't know how they accomplish it if your 60 series has the shallow baffles also but your cu. ft. is 4.3. The drum has to be the same size. It wouldn't be cost effective to have a drum with that tiny bit of more stainless steal.

I am using the least amount of he detergent for better rinsing.
The "Max" fill line on the liquid detergent cup is just too much!

The max I'll use is up to the "Minimum" line. Even when I washed 4 throw blankets it just about filled the drum and of course when wet the load shrinks a lot but filling the detergent cup to "Max" would have been too much.

I'm going to try my (yes I still use a water bed so a king water bed is considered a California King) white sheets & pillow cases/duvet cover/mattress protector in the Heavy Duty cycle on Thursday with the "Allergen" option and see how many rinses & spins I get.

I always use the "Add More Water" option like you and wish it did this to the rinses. There literally is no visible pool of water for the rinses but things seem to be rinsing fine (as long as you don't use a lot of detergent).

I'm finding myself using the same cycles you're using also.

Let me know if your "Allergen" gives you more rinses.

Thanks!
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georgect
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8 years ago
Update...
Well I just did my sheets/duvet cover/mattress protector on the Heavy Duty cycle with Allergen option and it only did three rinses and only one spin before the first rinse.
Unlike it did on the Deep Clean Sanitize (with four rinses and a spin before each one).
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larsi_gw
8 years ago
@ Georgect...I use Heavy Duty for sheets, blankets and towels. When I first got my 70 Series Wave Touch washer and dryer and now my 60 Series washer, Electrolux told me the Heavy Duty cycle uses "slightly" more water during the wash cycle and the wash pattern and speed of the tumbling is better for heavy items, or loads that need deeper cleaning, than compared to Normal or Whitest White. Also for Whitest White and Heavy Duty, I set the Temp to HOT. It seems my sheets and towels look and smell the freshest washing in HOT water. I have not had any issues with fading, pilling or material damage. In fact, I have been washing almost all our laundry on HOT, whether I use the Normal or Heavy Duty cycles. Clothes have been looking and smelling awesome!!!
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georgect
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8 years ago
@Larsi_gw...
All my whites (socks, underwear, towels, sheets, comforter, mattress protector, duvet cover) get HOT water.
1. because I feel it gets whites the whitest they can be.
2. it's keeps the washer cleaner.

For my black/color dress pants (khakis), dress shirts (button down), black socks, I'll use warm or eco-warm. I may or may not add "Steam", depending on how dirty I feel they may be (or need).
suburbanmd
8 years ago
What temperature is hot in the Electrolux?
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georgect
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8 years ago
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This is from a August 2010 (Revision B) Publication #5995523544 Service Manual I obtained online.
Today the temperatures may have changed do to tougher Energy Star guidelines.

So with a grain of salt :-)

Sanitize 67C (152F) +/-5C

Hot 55C (131 F) +/-5C

Eco Hot 45C (113F) +/- 5C

Warm 29C (84F) +/- 4C

Eco Warm 27C (81 F) +/- 3C

Warm Rinse 24C (75F) +/ -3C

Cold 15C (59F) +/- 5C
larsi_gw
8 years ago
These are the numbers Electrolux gave me over a year ago, Temp numbers. I have been washing even colours, blacks and brights on HOT....and I have noticed no damage and surprisingly no fading! Clothes feel very clean and soft!
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sparky823
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What detergent do you use for your colors?
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whirlpool_trainee
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This is an old chart for the 70 Series from 2012 by reviewed.com. Unfortunately, they don't say which temp they had selected.
georgect
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@aparky823...I like Tide ColorGuard.
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larsi_gw
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I really like Arm & Hammer 4in1 powder detergent packs/pods.
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Larsi-gw, what exactly does the Pet Program do on that machine? Sounds interesting.
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larsi_gw
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The Pet bed program is designed to deep clean pet beds with using hot, temp controlled water, steam and Fresh Rinses. It is very similar to Whitest Whites or Heavy Duty set to Hot and Fresh Rinse. The Stuffed Animal setting is awesome too!!
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