Would love advice on roof style- Hip vs Gable
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Comments (11)OK - So here are some photos, if these help. The first photo shows the drive-up view from the street at ground level, so not much roof showing. Really, not much roof showing from the street at all from any angle. The second photo shows the view from down the street looking back towards the house. The third photo is a 'head on' from our across the street neighbor's front door. The planned addition will be on the right side there, replacing the brick wall and brick garage with a structure similar to the one on the left in the same stone, but with more glass in the center. The right side is is where the roof pitch might be different, changing from 4:12 to 6:12. Between the two stone sections, the center area will be mainly glass and will have the front entry. And the fourth shot is a rendering of the proposed plan. The roofline in the rendering is shown at approximately 6:12 on the right, 4:12 on the left....See MoreGable / Hip Combination- do you like it?
Comments (6)Yup- you're right...the garage angles at 45 degrees. Right now it's at a 8:12 roof pitch, but we are really thinking of a 7:12 just cause it looks so massive. We love the layout and design of the interior, but like Bevangel said it's about impossible for us to visualize the roofing for it. It's a very long house (60 feet without the garage, 113 feet with the garage), but like I said, we're set on the interior, it's just the exterior that's tripping us up a bit. As far as the 3d perspective, we would have to get somebody else to do that cause unfornately our architect doesn't have the right software. So...we're gonna try it the cheaper way first---opinions of others:) Thanks a lot for your thoughts. I posted more drawings of our home so you could get a better idea of how it lays out. Hope it helps! Here is a link that might be useful: Floorplan, Roof Trusses & Side Elevations...See MoreNeed Help With Roof Style
Comments (34)Thanks again Renovator, Is that your house above...I love your cornices. I’ve been thinking about adding dentils and/or corbels and am definitely inspired. What are the approx. dimensions of the overhang, cornice and frieze? My overhang is 18" from the studs. (maybe 14" from the frieze). I like a prominent overhang but don't want to go Frank Lloyd Wright on a colonial. Following your suggestions, I dropped the rafters to sit on top of the wall and used a 2x12 joist which together just barely allows for a 8:12. Unfortunately I am now at 36' 6" above the lowest grade (4ft of exposed basement). I am calculating the average grade plane now as a first cut and will soon have my land surveyor's calc to see if am under 36’. I wouldn't mind a gable roof but am still confused on the 1/2 story calc. Based on my reading, it seems that they refer to the area under the 5ft and 7 ft planes and not just the width. If that is the case it would seem that a Gable roof would need a lower slope than a hip. I have a call into ISD to clarify. "a) Gross floor area shall include: ii. Any floor area above the second story, whether finished or unfinished, that meets all of the following criteria: 1. It lies below the area of a horizontal plane that is five (5) feet above it and which touches the side walls and/or the underside of the roof rafters; 2. Is at least seven (7) feet in any horizontal dimension, as measured within the area having a wall height of five feet or more; 3. Has a minimum ceiling height of seven (7) feet on at least 50 percent of its required floor area; and 4. Has a floor area of not less than 70 square feet as measured within the area having a wall height of five feet or more." From #1 and #3 is seems to say that the floor area is based on the 5ft area and not just the 7ft area. I hope I'm wrong though. I've heard that hydro-air is great (but expensive) and will look into it. A couple concerns about moving the insulation to the rafters is that I would have a large additional and unused space to condition and that I may have issues with excess moisture in the attic. I will need to do some more research on this. What is the next best option that doesn't require insulating the rafters. It seems most developers are putting ducts and a secondary HVAC system in an unconditioned attic and a primary HVAC in the basement. Obviously this is not so good as far as efficiency goes....See Morewhich is the most cost effective roof style???
Comments (10)Not sure how you can't have a gutter on any side of a roof where it's needed. It's probably not bad luck, just misunderstanding. If you like Colonial and Cape Cod styles, then a hip roof is probably not going to lend to those styles. But, whether it's hip or a simple gable is a minor difference of cost, if any, in relation to the entire project. There are many other things which will take a bigger bite out of the construction cost, like not using an 8:12 pitch. And regarding your porch-under-the-gable question, do the math. For a 50'-8" width at 8:12, the height of the ridge (peak of roof) will be around a 16' tall space in the attic, so you'll have enough room for a 2nd story and depending it may seem out of proportion compared to the 1st story....See Morecpartist
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