Need Your Opinion: 3 ton or 4 ton Trane XR17
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3 Ton Vs. 4 Ton (Houston)
Comments (11)I like the fact that your dealer did a load calc--shows he cares. He's right that the 3 ton should do the job most days, but if the load calc is 100% accurate, 3 tons won't always do the job on the hottest days of the year. The output on the 3 ton setup is 35,600 btus. How much it "won't do the job" I can't tell you. Could just be talking about a few degrees warmer in the house, if you can live with that. But depending on the latent and sensible breakdowns of your calculated low, could be worse, since the capacity is derated as ambient temperatures increase. I don't think the 4 ton would short cycle, not on low stage. And with the TCONT900 thermostat and communicating system, controlling humidity should not be an issue with the 4 ton unit, since it can run longer cycles in low stage at a lower airflow. See what your contractor thinks. Explain the fact that the 3 ton system won't always be putting out 36,000 btu's....See More3.5, 4 or 5 Ton? Help needed, thank you!
Comments (11)Angel I will say upfront that I think Trane is a step above over Lennox. You fail to identify the size of Lennox furnace quoted. I assume it is the 90 K model. These model numbers of condensers never have the full SEER ratings especially in larger sizes. Here is the matching AHRI number. You should confirm with your dealer. 5991283 Active Systems XC21 SERIES LENNOX INDUSTRIES, INC. XC21-048-230-10 CH33-50/60C+TDR+TXV 1595 1100 SL280UH090XV60C* 49500 13.00 17.70 1 RCU-A-CB 338 Yes I personally think you are fretting too much over the filter box. Yes, Honeywell makes many of the cabinets and filters for many brands. I like Trane Perfect Fit because it is physically made to fit their furnaces. I have that model. Changeout is easy. OEM or generic replacement filters are readily available and with various MERV ratings. Yes, the 803 thermostat has a humidity sensor for improved dehumidification. Otherwise the 802 and 803 are identical. And just so you know, the 8320 and 8321 are the identical Honeywell model numbers to Trane's 802 and 803 and will be less expensive. I think either system correctly sized will do you a nice job. I just like Trane over Lennox. The price difference really is inconsequential. I probably would take into consideration which dealer you have the most confidence in. I am not against reusing existing lineset. However, the lineset must be the correct size to new condenser. If not you shortchange yourself on system's capability and performance/efficiency numbers. Rely on dealer for best coil selection for your application. But verify performance/ efficiency numbers in AHRI Directory. Unfortunately many dealers look out for themselves in this area rather than their customer. IMO This post was edited by tigerdunes on Thu, Oct 24, 13 at 7:19...See More3ton or 4ton
Comments (7)upgrading furnace to 90+% is a good investment. my clients (north of N.O. near Lafayette) understand the savings and do the upgrade. 80% will give a blast of hot air..then house will be cool until next blast of hot air makes house hot. if the system adjusts to your needs then comfort will be improved. shopping with American Standard hvac company will work for you. 15-17 SEER has a good performance & payback. 10 year old a/c was about 10 SEER..just an educated guess as there are no model numbers posted. new unit will perform much better. 4 tons on 1700 sq ft house is just crazy. contractor is trying to sell higher tons to minimize call backs. 425 sq ft per ton is just outrageous. since 2.5 ton 10 year old system did ...ok. newer more efficient system will perform much better. having contractor mastic seal ductwork, plenums to furnace & supply boxes will put the air you pay to heat & cool inside the area you live in. 30% duct leakage isn't uncommon. Entergy charges premiun rates. blower door testing the house & sealing air leakage sites is another good investment. it is expensive to try to heat & cool a leaky structure. where is furnace & ductwork located? where is return air located? getting 3 bids would be the minimum. with nothing to compare this bid to... how can you make an informed decision? best of luck...See MoreGetting new HAVC installed. Should I go with 2 (3ton & 4ton) or 1 5ton
Comments (12)Your situation really doesn't surprise me, if I have seen it once I have seen it a thousand times. While the bedroom / bonus room have low air as you stated the combination of this problem plus no return or thermostat control in those areas just due to where the equipment is placed or the longer run of those ducts can create comfort issues in the heat of summer. When there is light exposed to what the real problem is gives a better ability to offer things that will rectify the issue. In dealing with hot spots a zone system is a higher cost option to rectify the issue for the simple reason a zone system has the ability to better control a system. The caveat if you will is the 'design'... the other thing is architectural limitations of the structure. While some situations in which a zone system is used can reduce equipment costs, that is not it's only function. If rooms are a considerable difference from the equipment that serves it, a zoned system may be the best method to rectify that issue. The other method would be to relocate the equipment to a more central location within the structure so that the ducting to each area is more equal. In a zone system the equipment will cool / heat each zone independently so while location of the equipment is still some what important, not as much as a non-zoned system. A new return added to a hot spot will help, but it may not rectify the issue 100% for the simple reason the thermostat location now can not sense temperature in that area. If you move the thermostat then the problem is merely shifted to a new area outside the reach of the thermostat. This is how a zone system excels. Provided the design is done correctly. While it's true that 2 speed, 5 speed and full on inverter systems excel in a humid climate, that is not the only purpose of those machines. Because of the high utility cost in the location of where this structure is... it is in the interest of this home owner to choose the most efficient equipment they can. If it were me I would go with Inverter system 20 SEER or higher. (5 speed or full inverter variable) If you can't afford both at once or you want to make sure a company is worth their salt, consider awarding a company with the system that has the problem area first. Tell them if they rectify the issue with the trouble spots you will reward them with replacing the other system as well. If you hire them and it goes terribly wrong, hire in another contractor to fix the problems and then you have something to use leverage to get another contractor to take over the maintenance and service of both systems... the contractor who fixes the problem system gets the right to replace the other system. Additionally given the information of those hot spot problems, trying to drop this to total of 5 tons of cooling would be a disaster. For others that happen to read this thread with similar problems I service the Katy, Texas area....See Moremike_home
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