Mid-life crisis?
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Comments (38)Hmmm, interesting and gratifying to know some of what I'm experiencing is shared by others. I too have a husband who adamantly refuses to travel. In our situation, I strongly suspect it has some undertones of passive-aggressiveness along with what others have mentioned. He can control at least the part of our relationship that involves that aspect of togetherness, or not. The other major component is also familiar from reading others' experiences. He simply has no interest in doing anything other than what he likes to do (diving/boating/canoeing). Anyway, my nuance that is a bit different is that I do have a career that brings me deep, deep joy and fulfillment. However it also keeps me so busy and often stressed that increasingly I find myself thinking 'I wonder what life would be like if every day belonged to me, to do--or not do--just what I want.' I am feeling that I need to start expanding my horizons now, because in 7 years at 62 YO I want to be prepared to retire completely. Financially we are on track. But I do not want to be the person who leaves a job that provided all my stimulation and then find: nothing. So I am in the pre-planning phase of the next stage of life. I love working with the age group at my job (teenage/college) so my thought is to find an outlet in some kind of service that would let me do that on my own terms. And as for traveling, given my druthers SunnyCottage that image is EXACTLY where I would choose to be! This summer I expanded my annual summer trip to Captiva (island on Florida's west coast) to 2 weeks and it was heaven. I could have stayed on and on and on. I do still want to see London though. And England in general. And Paris. And the national parks out west. And the South Pacific. At least thanks to this discussion I have some ideas about how to move forward with that phase of the midlife crisis :)....See MoreI Don't Want More 'Stuff'! Ever Feel This Way???
Comments (38)Lynn we are in a very similar place about our house - it's too big for us at this stage of our lives. We use most of the square footage in some way - because it's there - but could easily manage with half ! Our youngest will be graduating from college next May and HOPEFULLY will be employed and able to support himself but who knows? Our older son works for the forest service but those gov't jobs are shakey, to say the least, so we always want to have a place where they can land if needed. So.... we keep the big old house - for now. Stuff? I reached a saturation point many years ago and continually work to pare down. But it's back to that big house thing again - I'm not going to live in empty rooms so there's still far more STUFF than I actually need. When my mom died and I helped my dad move into an apartment, tons of family stuff came my way. Eleven years later when my dad died, the rest of it came to me. We've all talked about this before - the pull of family items and how hard it is to get rid of some things. But it has to be done so over the years I've pared down to the things that have the most meaning and passed the rest on in one way or another. I have dreams (nightmares?) about moving into a small home and having boxes and furniture stacked everywhere because I didn't sort and get rid of enough before moving!! Gifts? I could write a book. Christmas at my in-laws used to make me physically ill with the insane buying and giving of cr@p. It doesn't matter to me a bit how much time is put into the shopping and wrapping, or what the item is. When someone (namely my MIL) is purchasing *stuff* because of a date on a calendar and is obsessed with getting the same # of packages for each person, because that's "just what you do for Xmas" I want no part of it. We'd been married only a short time when I told my DH that I was opting out. He was totally on board. It was a sore spot with everyone in his family for many years but we held firm. We just stopped buying. Our kids would get everything they needed and some of what they wanted all through the year at a time when it made sense to get the item, not an enormous pile o' stuff, all on one day, much of it to be returned, exchanged or donated. And that returning/exchanging all fell to me, of course. A few years of that and we started just donating everything, in the boxes, tags still on. Give me a quiet day, with my family cooking together, laughing and going for a long walk...... THAT'S the gift I want....See MoreIs there something in the air?
Comments (22)We have been married 25 years, and also experienced very rough times at about the 20 year mark. I attribute it mostly to the stress of our oldest son's addiction to drugs and alcohol. There is lots of addiction in DH's family, so I automatically blamed him and his gene pool for our son's addiction. What saved us was counseling, 12 step recovery work, and a recommittment to the marriage. It would have been easier to just give up and blame others, but when I think about what my life would be like if I had done that I shudder. Living full of anger and resentment is not living. Today, our marriage is better than ever and we are looking forward to our empty nest when our youngest leaves home next year. I think sometimes people give up too easily, but I also believe that divorce is sometimes the right choice....See MoreIs this a new reality?
Comments (56)"Going back to a professional job meant a time commitment I wasn't prepared to make at my kids' expense," And here is one of the prime ways that I think women undercut others' choices, probably in an attempt to justify their own. Because the reality, backed by data, says that working mothers aren't shortchanging their children, they shortchange THEMSELVES in order to do everything that needs to be done. It certainly is not easy balancing a career and family. But it doesn't mean children suffer. Kids grow up in loving, healthy families with many types of working/care arrangements. They become happy and healthy adults whether mom is home 24/7 or not. I believe that one of the unforeseen consequences of the women's movement is the need for those who are not working for pay to justify it by engaging in today's hyper-parenting model. Our mothers who were at home with the family back in the day were NOT ferrying kids hither and yon for hours to sports programs and tutoring and lessons etc. They were not so deeply involved in their kids lives that they talked about how 'we' are applying to X college, or interceded in every possible aspect of their kids' lives. Because today there are options, it seems to me we've become a culture in which people really need to criticize others' differing paths to make themselves feel better. And perhaps I just read with a jaundiced eye, but I seem to read a lot more SAH bashing of working mothers than the other way around. Maybe us working moms are just too busy to be snarky (she said snarkily:). Choice is just that: choice. If you want to be out of the workforce, great. Do it and enjoy your life. But why be nasty to those chose another path? "I don't have my own money it is but it is not "His" either it is "Our" money" And just see how fast 'our' money becomes 'his' money if the marriage ends. Being financially dependent means that you are truly living on the sufferance of someone else. Sugar coat it all one likes, the reality is that the paycheck is NOT issued to Mr. *and Mrs* employee. The dynamic of one person earning money gives rise to that person being the one who actually controls the financial decisions from a position of power. How many times have we read and discussed on this forum about the scenario in which a woman isn't being 'allowed' to spend, buy, decorate etc by her husband because he is the one who earns the money? "He said that when she had asked for them to go for counseling (years before) he said no as he didn't think they had any problems. Eventually they did end up in counseling, that's when the issues finally came to light. At that point it was too late. I'm not blaming the wife but she should have addressed the issues immediately. " Okay, let's blame the woman! Because how else can this be interpreted: she sees a problem, she asks partner to go get help, he refuses, problems get worse, marriage ends...and it's her fault!?!? Sheesh. What kind of choice exactly did this woman have? Should she have tried to force her partner to go get help? Exactly how would that have worked? In my own life I am not financially dependent on my husband. We worked together as partners to raise two young adult offspring who have turned out just fine. Frankly, I think our marriage is much stronger given that we BOTH are in it because we want to be. I don't need to stay with him because if he left I'd be destitute. I don't need his money to retire-I've got that covered. I don't need his approval to buy anything-I earn my own money. Do I want to be with him? Do I eagerly anticipate years of retirement together? Do I consult with him about spending our joint funds (an account to which we both contribute to run our household) money? Yes, yes and yes. But the self confidence and security I feel in knowing that I can take care of myself is truly priceless. And last in this entirely too long screed-do I think those of you who choose to stay home and give up your own financial independence are worse off than me? No, although *for me* that is a path that is too risky for my own taste. What I wish is for everyone to have the freedom to make informed choices, and to live a life of happiness in following those choices with positive outcomes. To me that is feminism in its entirety: the right to choose for yourself how to live your best life. Ann...See Morejlc712
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