Advice needed on how to light this island
We are planning an ~ 9'x4' island (with a corner shaved off) with a seating area, cooktop and rangehood (Zephyr Milano G - downdraft not an option). My husband hates direct lighting (even dimmed) esp. ceiling cans. Is there anything else besides recessed cans that we can use to light the seating area without making the area look too busy? Below is a mockup of island:
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Need Advice for Lighting kitchen island
Comments (1)Ok old house snob alert....understand it before I finish posting... 1928 house and your architecht is recomending cans? Bleh bleh bleh bleh!!! Ya, cans are great, I love them, have them all over my 1980's townhouse, but in a period home....well bleh My kitchen (in the 80's townhouse) has an island, which is not in the middle of the room, and is not centered on the range, nor the fridge, nor the nook with the table....it's centered in the space it occupies :) And centered on that is my 1913 light fixture :) It is not centered on teh range, sink or fridge, or any of the other (I have 3) 1913 light fixtures). I would personally fire any architecht that recommended cans in a 1928 home...but aside from that problem I have with them, I would not worry about centering the light fixture's on anythiing but the feature they're being used to highlight, ie the island. My stove is the feature item in my kitchen, and the island and lighting is not a detracting factor, despite the lack of centering. I doubt yours would be either. One of the things they taught in design school...too much symetry can be too much. You get to a point where it looks like the whole package came out of a kit, especially in a period structure. Example...even the sink is off center:...See MoreIsland power question and lighting advice needed
Comments (6)I think that the outlet is required by code, but you might be able to request a minor variance. Best do that before settling on your final floorplan. The worst case scenario would see you cutting a small channel into the existing floor - not the end of the world. As far as lighting goes...I don't think that there is such a thing as too many lights as long as they are on separate circuits. In our plan for the 15 x 15 foot food preparation area of our own space we have a total of 17 pot lights, one large chandelier type fixture over the island, undercabinet lighting and lighting inside the glass-fronts. These are on 8 circuits, and 6 of those are on dimmers. It would be very frustrating to finish a nice reno and find that you neglected to put enough light in the important places, or that you couldn't adjust the lighting to get the right ambience for entertaining. Glancing at your layout I would think you'd need at least three task lights over the cooktop run, two task lights over the sink run and at least three, if not five, over the island. It would be nice if these were on three separate switches with dimmers. I'd be tempted to add a nice attention getting fixture over the island, on its own dimmer. Then I'd put two rows of three evenly-spaced general lighting pots for ambient room lighting, wired independently again. Good Luck ! :)...See MoreI need advice for light over my kitchen island
Comments (7)Your current set up looks nice; however, your island would look more balanced if you spaced out the lights a bit. If you like vintage-style lights, you should check out our hanging oldage barn lights. They'd look great with your island!...See MoreADVICE NEEDED! Kitchen Island Pendant Lighting Dilemma
Comments (11)Good stuff from Beverly above. If you're a visual person (like me) you can also try the balloon trick. Blow up some balloons to be the same size as the lights (as close as possible.) Or you could mock something up with cardboard which would work well since your lights are rectangular (and very cool by the way.) Then hang your mockups on strings from the ceiling. You can play with positioning and length of string to see what you think. Stand by them to check your sight lines when working at the counter, and check them from further away to see how they look. I did this when I replaced a light in my kitchen with a light that has 3 separate globes that can be hung at different heights. I moved my table under the mocked up "light", sat the kids down for dinner, and fiddled around with the strings until I was happy with the heights of the balloons compared to the table. Then I kept the mockup hung nearby for the electrician to follow as a guide....See MoreDavid
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8 years agoDavid,
Thanks for your suggestion. Creating a raised area will be difficult because of all the beams, ducts and cables that will be running across the area. Are there surface mount fixtures that might be able to (unobtrusively) generate enough light but indirectly?
On the subject of cove/indirect lighting, we want to do this in the family room (another place my husband hates the canned lighting we have now). Rather than the traditional way of hiding it in on a ledge, I liked the photo below that had cutouts on the side (little cubbies so to speak) that contained some sort of fixture. Ignore everything in the photo except the cutouts on the edge of the outer circle.
I was trying to find a way to do something like that. We area planning to have a raised oval in the center of the family room about 13 by 18 feet. Unlike the photo, however, the height difference will be only 12-13 inches between the raised part (11 feet) and the rest (10 feet). The ceiling is flat in the middle. There will not be any beams.
Is there a way we can copy this idea? I asked several professionals but everyone just tries to steer me to traditional cove lighting because they are familiar with it. My husband and I prefer the bursts of light (is ceiling wash the correct term) as in the first photo the continuous ring of light from traditional cove lighting.
With the cubbie-lighting, ideally, the light is completely hidden, so it seems that just a traditional style bulb that screwed in but was hidden from sight should be good enough. Am I missing something? Do I need something to direct/diffuse the light other than with the sides and bottom of the cubbie (presumably sheetrocked wall). How many of these cubbie-cutouts would I need with the led equivalent of a 65 watt bulb in a 17 by 20 foot octagonal room if the ceiling is 11 feet high inside the oval? How wide/tall would be a good idea? Any light you can shed on this (pardon the pun) would be very appreciated. I need to decide by Monday. - PRO
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