Induction Power Boost, is it a necessary feature?
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Induction vs. Radiant vs Hybrid? Are these features all the same?
Comments (10)tracee asks: "So what is the story with all these fancy terms? Does radiant + hybrid = induction? OR are these all different features?" They are different. Wood fires, gas/propane burners, and electric (coil) burners ALL use energy sources to create HEAT at the cooktop/range surface, then transfer the energy in the form of heat to the pot or pan by CONDUCTION. To a minor extent, gas/propane burners and, to a greater extent, ribbon radiant burners, use energy sources to create HEAT at the cooktop/range surface, then transfer the energy in the form of heat to the pot or pan by RADIATION. The difference: hold your hand six or eight inches above an "on" electric (coil or radiant) burner; you will receive heat energy in the form of radiation, and it will be hot, but bearable in the short term. Put your hand (don't: imagine it, instead) onto the electric coil or the Ceran surface of a ribbon radiant burner, and your flesh would immediately be seared from the heat of conduction. Induction uses electricity to create a rapidly reversing magnetic field, not heat. When a pot or pan made of magnetic material is placed in that magnetic field, heat is created IN THE POT OR PAN by friction between molecules inside the material of the pot. The cooktop/range does not generate heat on its own, but some heat from the pot or pan gets transmitted FROM the pot or pan TO the Ceran cooktop by conduction, just as your wood table gets hot when you put a hot pot onto it. The term hybrid is sometimes applied to cooktops/ranges where some of the burners generate heat (ribbon radiant) and some of the burners are induction. We formerly had one of those. In practice, we never used the ribbon radiant burners except when the induction burners all were already occupied. Once one has used induction to cook, it is very, very rare that one voluntarily uses another method....See Moreinduction stove power boost function
Comments (8)I have noticed that in all forums, for whatever subjects, I seldom see direct answers to questions, but instead, responses in the form of questioning the question. The pamphlet that came with the Zwillings cookware is titled "Instructions for use and care - cookware TWIN Cooking" inside there is a page with the heading "Zwilling cookware - pure cooking enjoyment and delightfully easy to care for " There is a paragraph with heading "Instructions for induction ovens: The risk of overheating is particularly high with induction ovens. Heat up the cookware slowly on medium heat and supervise at all times. Do not use the boost function." If I had to, I could make a zerox copy of the above, but that is getting silly from my point of view. The following is a copy of the body of the email reponse I received back from Zwilling Canada; *********** Hi, Thank you for your purchase of the Joy cookware set. In general we do not recommend using the boost function on any of our cookware. The best course of action is to slowly increase the temperature of the cookware by using medium heat. Regards, Eric Beuth Customer Service & Order Desk Supervisor Zwilling J.A. Henckels Canada Ltd. Tel. 905-475-2555 x 263 Fax 905-475-0635 ebeuth@zwilling.ca http://www.zwilling.ca *************************** The above response from Zwilling was in response to my email with the question : Are any of your cookware sets usable on the power boost function of induction stove tops. I have a set of Joy cook ware and the instructions say not to use the power boil/boost function. ********* My question posed in this forum was obviously addressed to anyone who might have an answer to my question as stated in my previous forum entries; anyone who does not accept the validity of my question, of course will not be able to answer my question; so why bother replying? I am asking in the hope of getting an answer. not proving the worthiness of the question. I could phone Zwilling at the number they have provided, but my reluctance is based on the following reasoning; 1. I suspect there is a technical reason they do not recommend using the power boost function and that is the reason they do not state it in the pamphlet or in the email respose to me question. 2. In my question to them I explicitly asked if any of their cookware could be used with the power boil/boost function and because of their answer I would not bother replacing my JOY set with another of their cookware sets. 3.So, my hope/plan was to "simply" find a brand/manufacturer that directly indicates that you can use their cookware with the power boost function; why?, because Zwilling say not to. It cannot be any clearer than that. Finally, it is not that big an issue since the power boost function is only used for boiling water, but it would be nice to use (My wife and I had already been using it until we noticed the instructions not to and I subsequently contacted Zwilling) We purchased the cookware just recently, but prior to purchasing the induction stove. I was going to give the set of cookware to my son and purchase a new set, so that is why i asked Zwilling if any of their cookware can be used with the power boost function. But sadly, no. So, if anyone has proof (the manufacturer states that their cookware can be used with the power function without voiding the warranty or damaging the cookware, please let me know....See MoreNeed help deciding - Single Induction or Double Non-Induction range
Comments (16)A 10" round pot over two 7" induction elements isn't likely to work well, and likely won't hit both pot sensors as well, so literally wouldn't work. Check the manual for whether you can bridge the elements with a double griddle. I'm guessing that you probably can. Also, make sure that each element has at least 17 power settings (1-9 with half steps). I've heard that some ranges only have 10, and that's not sufficient for a good cooking experience. Even more important than size is power output, and also power sharing since you're talking multiple pots. Make sure the outputs will work for you. A great big pot will work on a smaller element, but it'll have a hot spot. If you have thin enamelled steel, or carbon steel (which is usually only found on shallower pans), you're more likely to get rapid response. Next would be a high quality designed for induction clad steel. Are all of your big pots good on induction? You might have to invest in some new ones anyway. I LOVE my 11" element. My cooktop is 24" wide with the 11" double ring, a medium sized one and a small one. The only time that's not big enough is when I have a couple dozen guests and the chicken soup in one stock pot with the matzah balls in another, and I have one on the 15" gas cooktop. For spaghetti, for the family, a three quart pot on my medium induction element is fine. I have a few pots that I make spaghetti sauce in, but they're all the size of the ring at the base. I'm more likely to package it up for the freezer, and change to a smaller pot to heat the portion for dinner, however, so I don't have to deal with more work later. So... I think you'd be fine simmering your sauce in your big pot, and perhaps using an 8" steel pot for the pasta. Or something like that. Compared to the price of a new range, a couple hundred dollars for a few necessary cookware additions doesn't sound tragic. For boiling pasta, however, if you can get your current pot on the element without banging into your sauce pot, even if it's a little off center, it should be fine. It's not like you're cooking something on the pot where hot spots really matter. You're just heating the water that's cooking the pasta. Every new piece of cooking equipment, whether it's a cooktop or oven or small appliance, has a learning period. Each has its quirks. Adapting to those is necessary. Relearning your timing is essential. It's not hard if you don't resist it. Just be mindful and notice how things are working for the first month or two. It'll turn out fine in the end....See MoreDebating between induction and gas. And which induction cooktop.
Comments (119)Happy Friday! Let's BURN some time :) If I were the person who created this post, I'd be like... why on earth are these guys still arguing after 2 years? LOL. The logic is very simple: Not everyone has a gigantic backup generator. When the law prohibits gas, gas availability becomes a value-added feature of a house. 60% of US electricity is generated from coal (20%) and natural gas (40%) Woah wait... did I say natural gas is the top energy source of electricity?? Yes, that's the case for the US. So burning gas at 40% efficiency at the power plant to get electricity and then getting 90% efficiency at the induction doesn't seem to save anything. The math shows it's even less efficient than burning gas directly for heating (cooking). For me, I was stuck with electric for 20 years before switching back to gas, and I never regret about it. Everyone's cooking method is different. Carbon/stainless steel pans need to be preheated HOT and seasoned every time so they become nonstick. It's not the kind of seasoning that's done in the oven. BTW, some people just refuse to use nonstick pans coated with "forever chemicals" that flakes into the food and release toxic chemicals at high temperature. No one should install an under-sized ventilation system that doesn't match the stove, regardless of what stove to use. If the ventilation system can suck up the smoke, it can suck up the CO2 as well. For people with compromised respiration system, sure they should pay extra attention. But for the rest, we are just cooking food, not meth. Okay, I've said enough, and I should retire from this. I have better things to do. People who read this have my warnings. For people who disagree, enjoy your electric stove. Before I go, I highly recommend this for people who do stir fry or need to heat up a big pot of liquid. It can do both on the big burner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DRGUiVWsqs...See Moreseb225
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