Undercabinet power strip or Wall outlet?
catolson
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Comments (13)Frugal Here is my post to my final reveal - there are some pictures close to the top of the plug mold http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg121427088941.html Here is another post of PlugMold questions - we used something called WireMold and looks like a power strip on steroids and then mounted on an angled piece of wood. http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg041420218009.html And here are some additional pictures to help you The first one shows the angled strips - We did put a trim on the bottom of the cabinets to keep invisible. The only problem was a cold air return that got in the way of one of the plug spaces - so we had to bridge that one and if you are short, you can see the bridge - I might try to paint the wires to match the backsplash. The bridge is under these cabinets, between the glass cabinet and the end cabinet - I didn't take a picture of the bridge but it doesn't show when looking straight ahead, just when you are little and looking up - but then you would see the lights and plugs anyway......See Moreundercabinet lighting and counter outlets on same circuit?
Comments (17)The NEC is the National Electric Code, but jurisdictions can adopt it in while, in part, or change any part they want for local use (depending on what authority they have, especially in Dillon Rule states). The small appliance branch circuits under the NEC are restricted to the wall-counter space receptacles in the kitchen, and with just a few exceptions (gas range, refrigerator if you really want to (IIRC)) but NO other outlets are allowed. No garbage disposals, dishwashers, lights, receptacles NOT on the wall-counter space. It is easy enough to overload the circuits with counter appliances that ARE allowed without allowing them to go anywhere else. Coffee makers, toasters, toaster ovens, and microwaves ca overload ONE of the circuits easily enough to cause nuisance tripping. By making sure appliances commonly used together are on the two separate circuits a lot of nuisance tripping can be eliminated. It can still be a problem if you try to use the microwave with a large kitchen mixer on the same circuit. If the two appliances are both started at the same time it may trip (both pull more power ant initial start up). Many kitchen appliances are very close to 15 amps (1800 watts) and at least part of the time may be over that briefly. Put two of them on the same 20 amp circuit and a nuisance trip is possible. The fact that many also cycle on and off in operation (microwave on less than 100% output, coffee makers pot heater, taster oven on temperature setting below full blast) and you may go weeks with little problem, and then have it happen almost daily, and then even stop again. If you have a lot of higher power kitchen appliances that may get used together you could even consider more than the minimum required two circuits....See MorePlacement of undercabinet led strips to avoid glare?
Comments (9)I used several placements in my showroom. In the wine bar below, I placed the Hafele LED tape lights onto the back of the light rail, in a vertical orientation, shining back towards the backsplash. They are the warm color ones, and they also wrap the inside of the faceframe of the corner cabinet to light it's interior. The outlet directly below is the power supply, and the drivers are hidden in the corner cabinet. [Traditional Wine Cellar[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-wine-cellar-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_755~s_2107) by Memphis K&B Designer ProSource Memphis In the Dynasty kitchen below, the counter is darker and more reflectivee and has no light rail. The Hafele LED tape lights are mounted directly to the underside of the cabinet boxes at the front, in a horizontal manner, shining down on the counter. IMHO, this produces the better task lighting, although the greater lumens supplied by the cool white lights may also contribute to that perception. Here, I have 2 different power sources. The right hand section of lighting is powered from a receptacle above the cabinets. You can see the lead from the box to the driver to the right, above the sink area. Thellights on the left hand side are powered from the receptacle behind the blender, but the driver on that side is still mounted on top of the cabinet. [Transitional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/transitional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2112) by Memphis K&B Designer ProSource Memphis You can see the lights reflecting off of thepolished Cambria Parys counter here in the corner where the seam is located. I wouldn't call that reflection ''glare'' though. [Transitional Kitchen Countertops[(https://www.houzz.com/products/transitional-kitchen-countertops-prbr1-br~t_439~s_2112) by ProSource Memphis...See MoreUndercabinet power / lighting
Comments (20)Pelletis, hi. I haven't bought any LED undercabinet lights for the job I was writing about above because the owners didn't think them necessary. They aren't remodeling the kitchen yet. It is just a power upgrade for now. Meaning I'm bringing in all the needed circuits to meet code for a modern kitchen. They are waiting a year or so to do that. What I posted about originally was brands of plug strips for undercabinet power. I'm still looking for a strip that meets what needs I would like and what code specifications it has to meet. Luckily the install of those strips has been changed and I have three weeks more, due to additional work the client gave the flooring and tile contractor. Now, to your dilemma. You said $900 for the lights, is that total cost for all? I hope so? It seems steep to me. But, there are different LED's made by different companies, just like any other product. Not the unit, fixture itself but, the actual LED's themselves. There are some that are made better, that light up better, have longer life, different color efficacy, among other things. You just have to do some "interweb"LOL searching and look up the manufacturer of the fixtures you like, as far as look, number of LED's per foot or inch, color, price, lifespan, and compare the different manufacturers. Also, get the name and model number of the ones the sales person is trying to sell you and call around to other lighting or electric supply companies and give them the info and see if you get a better price. You should tell them the prices you were quoted and usually they will try to beat that price. They may try to sell you a different brand also so be careful to look up what they want to sell you as well. I hope I was helpful in some way. Good luck...See Morecatolson
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