My Grande Dame is not so grand
ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
9 years ago
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Grande Dame--Is It Really GRAND?
Comments (12)If you look at the description of the rose in Edmunds catalog you will note that they mention the nodding blooms. It's just the nature of this rose to have large blooms and weak stems. Some might find a certain charm in that.....Lovely picture Mossy......Maryl Here is a link that might be useful: Edmunds-Grande Dame description...See MoreGrand Dame, Electron, or Buxom Beauty?
Comments (9)I have Grande Dame and Buxom Beauty as first year bare root roses from Palantine. Both smell wonderful. BB has a better fragrance so far. But GD has BB beat for amount of blooms. Mine don't nod, but YMMV. Last I counted there were 32 buds on my GD. They've just started to open. Sorry, I haven't downloaded my pictures yet (too tired to go that far to get the camera. I'll try tomorrow. Whereas BB has had maybe 4 blooms this year. I think that GD blooms are more beautiful so far. And the sheer amount of flowers on GD is amazing!! Carol...See MoreNelsons Florida Roses Tamora and Grand Dame
Comments (16)I wonder. I have heard about "bad grafts" that just don't thrive. But some roses just take a while to get going. I do think the age of the rose and its location in the garden are two big factors. But I still think it has more to do with the variety. Some do better then others in Florida. Even grafted ones don't always thrive depending on the conditions. I have an easy does it (grafted) that did nothing for its first two years and now its hardly ever without bloom so age was a factor with her for sure. Maybe try moving it to another location? Maybe there's roots competing with her down below or something. I have Tamora as well but she's a tiny little own root thing. I got her from Rogue Valley Roses last spring and she was the worst one of the bunch when my order arrived. Her stems were yellow and within a few weeks she had lost all but the top few leaves. Somehow she bounced back however. I stuck her in the ground and she's given me 2-3 blooms. But she's still growing, albeit rather slowly. Keep in mind also that grafted roses usually don't have such bushy growth as own root since they are entirely growing from that one stem they are grafted on to. Maybe that's why she seems skimpy compared to your non grafted austins? I worry about growing them on their own roots down here (south fl), but you seem to have had luck with many of them. I have had success with Quietness and she's on her own roots. And Duchess de brabant too, own root. I had Clothilde Soupert but she died. I also have red cracker rose (2 years now) and shes pathetic. She's just three little branches, but she booms a bit even for her small size. I've been waiting for her to take off. She's older than quietness and quietness has towered over her. I got quietness from Chamblee. I like them alot. I also have a Dames de Chennonceau on her own roots that I put in the ground not too long ago and she sent out a monster basal cane that was like 5 feet tall, so I'm thinking she'll do ok. LOL You can always try rooting a cutting of Tamora. Maybe she'll be happier on her own roots. Mine isn't really doing anything so who knows. But worth a shot....See MoreCarol, lovin' my Grande Dame
Comments (4)Ooooh!!!! And don't you love how there are always more buds!! Love the color, the shape, the buds!! Awesome!!! What a rose! Carol...See Moreingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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