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Tall deep pink rose ID

BarbJP 15-16/9B CA Bay Area

9 years ago

So I know this isn't an antique rose, but I was told in the "Name That Rose" forum that I might get more answers here. I hope that's OK.

This rose was planted by the previous owner, probably in either the 70's or early 80's. It grows very tall with clusters of tea shaped roses, so probably a grandiflora.

Usually I keep it about 4-5 feet tall, but I was busy last winter and never got around to pruning it. Between that and a very mild winter here in NorCal, it's now at least 7 feet tall or more.

It starts a lighter pink and ages to a deep ruby/cherry pink. Very large flowers, the one I'm holding is at least 6" across, ruffled and wavy edge.Outside and inside of petals not hit by the sun are pale silvery pink.

Fairly disease resistant, I don't spray much (not at all last year) and it gets a little rust, no powdery mildew and very little black spot. Not a strong fragrance.

Any ideas? Thanks.

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jacqueline9CA
9 years ago
Can you post a picture of its thorns, close-ups of buds, and hips if any?

Jackie
jerijen
9 years ago
Does it start off white, edged deep pink, and the pink/red spreads as the bloom ages??? And could I see a close up photo of a leaf (set of leaflets)? And is the new foliage a very deep red?
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Sounds like Pinata to me-that's what immediately came to mind on reading your post. The link below contains some pictures of my pinata, showing bloom development/color changes as it ages. I happen to like Pinata a good deal, even though it is a slow grower, but I knew what I was buying when I purchased it-I'm sure it was quite a 'surprise' when yours started to bloom! Here is a link that might be useful: Garden Web Rose Gallery
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ozmelodye
9 years ago
I'm wondering if it is Mon Cheri, given the possible planting dates. Jerijen, you would know more about the finer points of the plant.
jerijen
9 years ago
Oh, gosh no. I haven't grown Mon Cheri for decades. But that's a good guess, I think. It's a nice rose. I can't remember anything about the foliage.
BarbJP 15-16/9B CA Bay Area
Original Author
9 years ago
No it doesn't start white. it starts a medium pink all over, then where the sun hits it, it turns a deep ruby pink/red. There isn't any fresh foliage at the moment, but if I remember right, it does have some red in the new leaves.

Mon Cheri is a possibility I'll look up .

Heres some more pics. Had a hard time getting a non blurry pic of a leaflet, hope these are of some help.
jerijen
9 years ago
From my recollection of it, that COULD be 'Mon Cheri.' Nice rose!
BarbJP 15-16/9B CA Bay Area
Original Author
9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I looked at some pics, but when I watched a video on youtube on Mon Cheri, that cinched it. I'm 99% sure that's what it is now. Oh, and the lady who planted it was French, maybe she liked the name, : )

But it's not a grandiflora. I assumed it was mostly because of the height and it's tendency to produce clusters. However, I've read since then that Mon Cheri sometimes does throw clusters of bloom, even though it's a hybrid tea. And I'm just going to assume the height is because it's in California, I didn't prune it last winter, and last winter here was exceptionally warm for us. Pretty much no dormancy this year.

Thanks for all the help and info everyone! You guys are the best!
ozmelodye
9 years ago
Sorry I couldn't get back to you yesterday but kept getting error pages every time I tried to access the various Rose Forums! Just wanted to tell you that Mon Cheri can throw out long canes with clusters of flowers for me here in Australia and looks fabulous in hot dry weather, but in humidity BS can be a problem. Enjoy your beautiful rose!
BarbJP 15-16/9B CA Bay Area
Original Author
9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Thank you! That's pretty much my experience with this rose. And we are very dry and hot here in the summer, so I guess it's a good rose for this area.

Yeah, the site was down for a while yesterday.

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