I don't have it myself but I see on HMF it's listed to zone 6. However, in the gardens tab there are many gardens listed in places colder than zone 6. Of course that doesn't tell you how much it might die back but at least it should be hardy enough to survive.

I just put this one in myself in zone 5 last year, so I quickly ran out in the garden to check its progress after the winter. The cane above the winter protection is definitely dead, and it's too hard to call below the leaf protection. I certainly don't see any green cane, but it's too early in the year to tell if it might bud out from the base still (it's an own root plant). I'd say it's at best 50/50 on surviving this past winter, but ask me again in a month or two and I might have more definitive feedback from my own experience.

Cynthia

Thank you both! That's helpful.

I had Lyda a while back and wish I had kept notes back then. Just don't realize that 20 years later you'll forget why you removed a rose. I do remember disease and very little cane left after winter. Some roses came spring back year after year and look gorgeous due too a natural vigor I'm guessing. Others resent constant die back. Perhaps Lyda was in that category.

I do love singles and have some that do exceptionally well here. Not one of the same color of Lyda thou. Perhaps some else would.

Patty can I ask what singles do well for you? I am open to other suggestions!

Certainly, getting ready to go shortly. I'll do a couple than finish later. Shall start with Flower Girl an amazingly hardy and healthy rose. Very gentle in appearance. It does have more of a coral tone thou. In the worst of our winters there is die back but grows to about 4' by 3 or 4' wide. She grows up and fountains out at the top. In my yard she has her own spot as I'm a bit fussy about color blending.

In white I have Innocencia Vigorosa. Smaller in size. Semi double but gives the appearance of a single. Very healthy rose. Should make the top ten list in a couple years

Also in white, White Out already in top ten list. A short rose at about 2 1/2'h by 3' round hunk of love. If dead headed always in bloom. No scent so no jb's on her. Also so very disease resistant in my no spray garden. Die's to ground in winter. Has come back fine here for ten years now.

For a red Home Run is fabulous. In all day sun it grows too a 4'x3' foot shrub. Constant bloom and very disease resistant. I have one in 6 hrs. of sun that stays a bit shorter. More later

Michaela, I'm not in your zone, but Morden Sunrise was developed in Canada for cold zones. It's a single and I love it. Very beautiful rose, I think. Diane

Another beautiful white that I love is Escimo aka Silver Ghost. Very heathy with continuous bloom if dead headed. Flowers fall before fading so it keeps that pristine white color. Size is not as listed. Here she grows 31/2' tall but a beast in with at 12' or more wide. It does keep all branching up off the ground. In milder winter that we use to have. She kept a lot of cane. I pruned hard anyway as 12' around is big enough for me.

Don't know about other folks but I really like Betty Prior. I have to prune nearly to ground in spring. Grows to 3'x3', healthy, scented, pink and white blooms more pink in flower then white.

I have three yellow singles but their new from last year. So I can't help with size or health before the end of this coming season. They are Oso Easy Lemon Zest. Think this well be a good one time well tell. Tiny front of the border rose. Lemon Zest pretty flower. The jury is still out for health. Sparkle n Shine may give me a problem unless I move it to all day sun I see.

Loved the bloom on Morden Sunrise But here for me it needed spray to stay heathy. So sad I really liked it.

All of my roses are own root. My choice mostly because of our winters. No winter protection except for leaves or straw that is added in summer to conserve moisture and I make sure it's away from the base of the plant. Sometimes finely ground mulch when I can afford it.

A few more later.

My two favorite singles are Dainty Bess and Golden Wings.

Should have read your post more closely. I missed the big shade tolerant part. So Lyda would grow in zone5 but she will die to the ground in winter. That said most if not all hybrid musks are happier in warmer zones. They are shade tolerant but in our zone they would likely need more sun to do well. That said my best guess would by 3 to 4' by 3' wide in zone 5. Go for it if that size would work.

Thank you all for the comments, feedback & suggestions. In this spot I'm thinking it may be better to grow a hydrangea if I decide to take on the task of removing this old shrub. It's such an eye sore for me and I'd love something that blooms there.

I'm going to take a look at all of these beautiful suggestions and hopefully find a different spot for one of them, maybe one of the smaller ones. :)

Michaela you can always try it there and move it if it's too shady :) It's on sale lol! I saw the sale at Heirloom too and ordered 3 more.....

Patty Escimo sounds interesting - is it fragrant?

Thanks!

Julie

Thanks Patty - I may try this one next year! I think I already have too much to plant this year! I would love to pick your brain on good cold weather roses as well :)

Julie I know I said I was done buying roses for this year and then they started this darn sale! :P

Thanks Patty, taking a look. So hard for me to decide between roses & hydrangeas. I love them both, way too much!

My hearts with the roses but I love my hydrangea's as well. If you ever want something that you can plant between your roses paniculata Bobo is incredible. Since they can pretty much take full sun here. Such a blooming fool and very short.

Anyway, since I only have so much space here and the season is short. I tend to plant continuous bloom roses either shrubs or floribundas.

I know! I didn't NEED anymore but the SALE! I got Blueberry Hill, Westerland, and Cassie. Couldn't pass it up, ordered gallon size except for Cassie as was out of stock. Had Lyda in my cart and took it out, feeling guilty about the $$ and wasn't sure if I loved the shape of the bloom, but wanted a shade bloomer.... Maybe next year! Love the hydrangeas too :)

Patty I agree with you there. Oh I have not grown Bobo before, it's adorable. Looks like one of the local nurseries I shop at carries them. Might have to pick one up. Hard for me to turn down a hydrangea that stays on the smaller side! Thanks for the suggestion.

Dingo - that is so funny that you got Blueberry Hill... I have put that one in my cart so many times on HR and then I take it out last second. It's such a beautiful rose. Hope you'll report back and let us know how it does for you!

I agree... something that blooms constantly in shade would be impressive! Can't go wrong with a little of both roses & hydrangeas. Well no, a lot of both is what I should say. :P