Acting As My Own GC, Missing One Peice of the Puzzle
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Comments (8)We have acted as our own GC many times building houses from scratch. We made the huge mistake of hiring a builder ONCE. It takes time and organization, but I don't find the work load any more than when we hired the builder. Much less aggravation too. We have had absolutely no problem whatsoever finding excellent craftsmen to do the work we can't handle ourselves. Ask around. You will eventually find the cream of the crop. We did. there are good local people who specailize in foundations, those that do cabinets, and those that do tile...you get the picture. It saves thousands and onec we have selected someone to do the work we have had no issues with quality, ethics, or the job getting done properly and on time. In contrast, the builder we had that one time picked some of the worst people to save a buck. Some showed up after they had been drinking. Some showed up without proper tools. Some never showed up. Some stole things. Some broke things.Some did poor quality work. Some did O.K. work. The drywall guy actually said that he had seen some poor trusses go in and that no one cared, so neither did he. This was a supposed "high end" builder, building a lovely custom home for us. Never again. Warranty work? Some are good about it. Ours wasn't. We are still good friends with all the people who have done work for us, that we found ourselves. There hasn't been one to this day I wouldn't trust with a key to my house. Sandy...See MoreIf someone has time, can you please explain how you act as your
Comments (17)I worked as an Interior Designer in a past life - BC, 'before children' :)... So I know where you are coming from. In your initial post you posed your question in a very general and broad way which: 1. makes it difficult to answer and 2. indicated to some that you might be ill prepared to take on this challenge. Perhaps you were just trying to find out the different ways owner/builders were working on their projects? If you are seriously considering being your own GC then there are resources available to you on the internet and at the library. As dixiedoodle mentioned, The Owner Builder Book is one, it is great. There is a website as well. www.ownerbuilderbook.com I took a class at a community college and the website for the teacher is www.ownerbuilder.com. Tons of good information -that is how I found this site. :) We have decided to hire a builder but I think all of my research will still be an asset in our build. To answer your question about whether you can choose some of your own subs - it will depend on the Builder and your contract. If that is important to you then you should stipulate that and find someone willing to work with you on that basis. An option that might work for you is to find a GC/Builder that will get you through drywall and then you can GC the finish work yourself since you have contacts in the industry. Hope that helps....See MoreBuying own materials for GC to use?
Comments (26)We were our own contractor with our house this time around, but we did hire a builder for our last home. Whether someone hires a builder or not, it is very wise to acquaint yourself with each and every aspect of the process, and to stay heavily involved. We had retained the right to purchase our own materials/fixtures if we wanted. The builder wasn't thrilled, but we would not have signed on with him otherwise. We always asked first what the builder pricing was for a particular item. For example, a specific light, toilet, etc. At all times we were able to go out and buy the exact same item ourselves for a lot less. If you have concerns about an item, for example whether a faucet has brass interiors, the manufacturer will provide you with that information. I'm not sure why some people think a homeowner is so stupid they can't find good products on their own. We buy things for our home all the time both online and in person at a store. We have never had missing parts. If by chance a part is missing or broken the manufacturer or business it is purchased from will take care of that quickly. Do some people honestly believe a builder or plumber doesn't sometimes get something broken or without a missing part?! We've bought Kohler, Moen, Italian design faucets, American Standard, Porcher, Hunter......never had a problem with parts. They arrive in the manufacturer's sealed box. I'm not getting where your GC is telling you horror stories about missing parts for so many things, because it just isn't so. We found our builder either marked things up quite a bit or got kickbacks. We've built 4 different homes over the years. We built three of them ourselves, much of the work done by us, including this last one. Tried a builder for one. We now hire a very hardworking and reputable local contractor for heavier jobs we are no longer able to handle ourselves. He likes when we buy the materials, and he provides the labor. He has a great attitude and work ethic. He's honest, gets the job done without running off to others, and stands behind his work. If your GC is telling you about delays and it costing you more money, recouping costs, "extra risks", you need to have a long talk with him. Now. Since you obviously can read and write, you are able to buy good faucets on your own. We actually had to re-do some shower plumbing a plumber had done incorrectly in our last house. We found there are a lot of people who claim they take responsibility but are nowhere to be found once paid in full....See MoreAny advice from anyone who has done their own GC'ing?
Comments (13)Tiskers, Sounds like you're doing the same extensive DIY that we did/are still doing! I have one question --- if hubby is that handy, why aren't you installing the cabinets yourselves? WE saved $2000 doing that. That was the easiest $2K we saved on the whole reno. Mind you, my DH is an engineer (electrical- so he did all the re-wiring and new wiring), and really really good at drawings and figuring things out. One day (perhaps when it's all done), I will sit down and figure out how much we have saved DIY. WE gutted a 25 X 10.5 space- including removing ceiling (which wasn't pleasant as it was an older house with no vapour barrier)- bits of insulation were 'everywhere'! We tore down a wall (that was fun)- removed aluminum wiring- rerouted plumbing/venting re-wired/installed all new electrical/appliances. Changed windows- now, that was an area that I subbed out, ie manufacturing and installation of new windows. That delayed us by quite a bit- they were more than 2 months late, as we had to take out old windows to reframe- we did it to be ready for scheduled delivery... and we ended up living with plastic sheeting for windows for months! Check your timelines. We had to have drywall up and painted for a set period of time (forget exactly), so that it could all dry before cabinets went in. Since we weren't drywalling until windows were in, we got behind right from the start. Luckily our cabinet supplier had room to hold the cabinets for us until we were ready. Flooring was also subbed out, and when we missed our original time, had to wait awhile until he could reschedule. Appliance store also agreed to hold appliances for us for several months. We originally planned a July 30th finish date. With delays, we then hoped to be in before Christmas. Granite was finally installed end of November- had to be re-ordered, and replacement pieces weren't installed until April 08, so of course we couldn't put up backsplash or finish off back of peninsula. Not to belabour the point, but as of Nov 24 08, we are still waiting for the last pieces we subbed out to a carpenter- finishing off our cabinets (original order was screwed up- long story). Hired him in August, and supposedly will get our order this week (not holding my breath). As I've said here before, my mistake in saying we wanted to be finished before Christmas, was in not specifying the year!!! So, advice? Money to be saved is real. In these times, priceless. Luckily, your DH can do all the work. If you don't have to sub out to anyone for anything, you're ahead of the game. But, if you have to depend on anyone else, be prepared for delays, and make sure your suppliers are OK with them....See Morehomechef59
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