Data on marginal cost per square foot
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What's your rough cost per square foot estimate?
Comments (56)Hey bobyoe! Glad you straightened that out for everyone! However, your comments do raise an issue that "$ per sq. ft" obsessed folks need to think about when they talk to a builder. It's the cost of the whole project that counts, not just the cost of the house. Plus, the features, finishes, and location of the house within a market area can make a 10,000 sq ft house cost less than a 6,000 sq ft. house. No one gave us a good ballpark estimate for things like professional fees, permits, impact fees, drainage systems, or site work before we started. Most of those items were not related to the size of the house. Those costs will end up being about 18% of the total project costs. No one could convince my "$ per sq ft obsessed husband" that the features he wanted in our house were equivalent to building multiple luxury kitchens. He is convinced now :-). Same thing goes for the outside entertainment areas. He thought the covered areas should be priced like a garage. Wrong. The spec'd finishes bring the entertainment areas to a higher cost for build out than any non-plumbed room in the airconditioned space. The thing that I think we could all agree about is that you can buy an existing home at a significantly lower cost per sq. ft. in today's market. Major builders are dumping new 5 and 6 bedroom 8,000 sq ft homes in our county for $600-$800K. Yeah, they are in outlying areas on small lots, but they are brand new homes. So, in addition to size and features, you have to price in: 1. supply and demand, and 2. location within a location. We are in Palm Beach County, Florida. Our lot costs vary from $20 million per acre on the ocean in Palm Beach, $10 million per ocean front acre 15 miles south on the same island, $2-5 million per acre intracoastal waterway on the same island, and $50,000 for a 1/4 acre builder's lot 15 miles west of the ocean where the national builders are dumping their inventory. Why bring lot costs into the discussion? It's because builders will hit you hard for building in an area of high land costs. I guess they think they are entitled to a big premium if you are paying premium prices for your lot. That's my 2 cents for the day!...See MorePer Square Foot Cost by Component
Comments (2)Your formula is fine assuming you are putting in lot developement costs as cost of land and adding in for upgrades above builders level. You'll get those numbers from your local developers. Your Ins. agent might help but I'd take it from developers or a realtor you can trust. An appraiser if you can get one to tell you. Barring all that, cruising some displays with a careful eye and a note pad. Options usually have high margins ... be careful of too much extrapolation. And after you're done with all that, you can throw half of it away :-) Kidding ... That just tells you how a place is priced relative to new const. Then there are the near intangibles, depreciating everything for time and condition, then adding back in the lessor risk of existing over new and local market conditions short term and long....See MoreCost of Low-E Glass (ie: per square foot)
Comments (6)You have definitely done your homework, hopefully I can offer a few suggestions... As I think that you already know, using coated laminated glass will give you the same SHGC performance as you would get from an IG, but at the loss of the IG U-factor improvement. Keep in mind that laminated glass will generally have a shorter warranty period than will an IG (depending on manufacturer - but shorter warranty for lami versus IG is fairly consistent in the industry). Depending on the IG manufacturer (and materials), IG seal failure is not likely to be a problem. The better systems in use today have seal failures significantly less than 1%. There is significantly less reason to anticipate "down the road when the seals blow" than you might think. There is at least one other consideration when dealing with internal softcoat coated laminated glass. There are several different laminated glass interlayers in use today. It is likely that you will be looking at a PVB interlayer since a significant majority of laminated glass windows use PVB interlayers. Without going into all the technical details, not all laminated glass manufacturers who deal with coatings are comfortable with the compatibility or longevity of laminating softcoat coatings with PVB interlayers. Cardinal, for example, doesn't even offer an internally coated PVB laminate. Okay, all that said, I am really not trying to talk you out of using a coated laminate, I am offering a few other considerations...hopefully not making your call more difficult. In the case of an IG I would agree completely that getting a coated LowE coating or getting the LowE coating on a tinted lite is superior to an IG with separate coated lite and tinted lite. "I guess I could order the SolarBan 70XL in Atlantica tint to get even better SHGC, if PPG makes the 70XL in tint (on one piece of glass.)" I believe that PPG does offer the 70XL tinted as well, if so I think that it would be worth your while to check it out. "Also no one I've talked to even mentions the 70XL even though I am aware of it. I am surprised about how few Low-E options are presented by window/glass companies. Either they don't know about them, don't understand them, or believe their customers are incapable of understanding the differencea." --- All of the above? I am curious why you want to temper the glass in the laminate? While I understand (and agree with) your desire to temper the lites in the IG (I would do both lites at your sizes - I would also consider thinner glass since tempering would allow you to safely go thinner), but since laminated glass is a safety product that meets all the same safety codes as tempered (actually exceeds tempered in some respects), from a strictly safety standpoint there is no reason to temper the glass as well as laminate it. Although some folks advertise "self-clean" glass, other folks call it "easy-clean" glass just to avoid the controversy of the glass "cleaning" itself. It is a photo-catalytic titanium dioxide coating that does work really well. A few window companies offer it as a standard, others as an option, and others don't offer it at all. And while I don't deal directly with glass or window pricing, based on what you are asking for, and since you are in SoCal, I don't see that your glass quote is really out of line, which doesn't make it less painful. You are considering some potentially expensive options....See MoreCost per square foot to rebuild in San Francisco?
Comments (23)Michael Short, Insurance Agent South Bay Great questions and answers. Before this life I was in the Mechanical Contracting business large commercial. There are some great answers in the threads above. 1. Know why you are getting the insurance and what it is you are protecting ( for all lines, but for the sake of discussion keep on homes you live in although most people auto is their largest liability). 2. As you are doing now find out the rebuild price per sqft. in your area 3. All fires are not equal. Your home burns down you can take bids negotiate, prices remain what they are. All of the homes in your area burn down forget it. Like my dad used to say ... son the price of poker just went up, right before he would take all my money :). Not enough contractors to go around highest bid wins. 4.How much would a vacant lot or a burned down house sell for. In Willow Glen I saw a burned down home sell roughly $800k .... 5.Prices go up they don't go down especially in these times... sheets of plywood last year home depot 7-10 dollars each now 50-60 dollars!!! Your insurance agent should give you price/s on per sqft cost to rebuild In the end its your home and your decision. Your agents job is to give you the information to assist you If your looking to save money go with a high deductible and do the math 10k vs 20k ded. Remember you don't come out of pocket on your home owners insurance claim. Whatever the "approved claim" is they take that ded amount and pay you the difference. Like one person said know what you need to rebuild and know what you need to walk away with and not be sick to your stomach. New home owners that put down 1.5% may be in a much different situation then someone with 50-100% equity. Hope this helps You can shoot me an email if you have any questions. mshort@farmersagent.com...See MoreUser
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