Terrible tile floor installation...what can I do?
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Comments (3)I'm sorry the owner is in the hospital, but that unfortunate circumstance shouldn't affect your decision on accepting/rejecting countertops that will be in your house for a good long time - 20 years? On the gap behind the sink run: If your planned backsplash tile will cover a 1/4" gap, that is fortunate, but be aware that the industry standard is half that - 1/8". Sink cut-out: just sloppy. When we were looking at stones, we went to a place with "examples" of finished pieces. Every sink cut out in the place (mostly bathroom sinks) was "off." The cut out wandered with respect to the sink edges. This is 3 years later and I still remember that irregularity with a cringe. It wasn't so bad that it's the first thing you noticed, but once having noticed, it was hard to ignore. We crossed that place off our list of possible companies based on those "who cares?" cuts. Cook-top cut out: Their bridging solution may be acceptable in some markets, but doesn't seem to be a first class solution to this common installation issue. The better way to do this is to embed rods in the uncut undersides of the bridge sections rather than cut and paste. I suspect that better fabricators install the rods and then make the cut most, but not all, of the way through the thickness of the stone at the shop, and then finish the cut on site. The issue is breakage in moving the stone. Here is another way of dealing with narrow pieces. The brace was just for moving purposes. (This is a sink cut out, not a cooktop, but the method is the same.) If I were you, I'd be inclined to reject the whole job considering how much it's costing you and how long you'll have to live with it. Here is a link that might be useful: Marble Institute of America installation standards...See MoreImproperly installed floors. What should I do?
Comments (7)@jyeh3112 - Please clarify: Who was it that you "paid"? You state that the "subs" told you the concrete was not level (which is COMPLETELY normal - concrete slab is NEVER level to the point of 'finishing'). You then stated that you agreed to pay "them" extra. Did you pay the GC for the extra work or did you pay the SUBS directly for the extra work? Your answer is very, very, very important. Technically you ONLY pay your GC and they make payment to the subs. Only ONE person actually works for you - the General Contractor. Everyone else works for the General Contract....that's how it works. That's why the GC is "responsible" for everything done on the job site. Please, please, please tell me you ONLY paid the GC?! In the END, the contractor needs to be BROUGHT IN to view all the flooring. Your contract - ahem...your CONTRACT - states certain payments are offered after certain mile stones. A hardwood floor that is floated over improperly prepared subfloor (regardless of who paid) is considered "improperly installed" (funny how that works). The installation - being "improperly installed" - means the job isn't finished. The GC must correct it - or at least offer you the 25-30 year WARRANTY that his/her workers just VOIDED. Yes - an improperly installed floor VOIDS the manufacturer's warranty. Review your contract while you wait for your GC to show up on site. And use blue tape to indicate the areas with issues. And document (by numbering) the areas where the floor level fails the very basic 1/8" over 10ft (which is pretty much industry standard). And if you can MEASURE a 7/32" over 6 foot radius over top of a FINISHED floor, that means the subfloor is WELL beyond this measurement. MUCH MUCH WORSE. I'm wondering if the subs did anything with that "extra payment" (I can't tell you how many times a sub will say "Yah. I did it. Pay me." when in fact they were else were for hours and hours and hours). As for the stairs, you will have to find your documentation that states HOW they will be finished and with WHAT. I fear you have a few more issues with quality control than you may think. In essence a GC is your quality control. If they don't "control" their subs, then they aren't controlling the work site. Good luck. If you need to go for the big guns, go ahead and hire an NWFA Certfied Flooring Inspector. They aren't cheap, but they are recognised by the courts as "expert witnesses" without having to prove their qualifications. www.nwfa.org Look under "find a professional" and then go from there....See MoreHELP! Bad Design, Bad install. WHAT SHOULD I DO? Any Suggestions?
Comments (61)" I would attack’s it with a sponge at least to see if you can clean that up." You do that and you own the entire thing, make him clean it up better. Sooner the better as grout hardens over time. Also as alluded to above he needs to remove the grout at all chnages of plane and use 100% silicone caulk....See MoreUsing handyman to renovate bathroom, his tiling is terrible.
Comments (11)I’m in socal as well. The problem with handymen is they don’t do certain jobs enough to develop a mastery. Tile, drywall, paint are some of those trades off the top my head. Safety issues aside, the 20k estimate you are getting is the price for knowing tradesmen with sufficient skill. This also sounds like a relatively small job, so the 20k also includes a “sucker” fee for lack of a better term a contractor will add because the job is too small but for the right price they’ll do it. My simple advice, with your situation, walk away and do more homework on skilled tradesmen who can finish the job. With a typical contract you are obligated to give the contractor a chance to “fix“ their mistake. It’s a BS clause but since you don’t have a written agreement you can ignore that. If you can’t find the skilled workers out there to do tile, 20k is your other option. Hope this helps....See MoreVertise
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