I would get rid of it. I have a barrier, not quite as deep as Donn describes, and this stuff has gone under and is coming up in a thick gravel path that has weed barrier under the gravel from my neighbors yard. I am uphill from it so its traveling way down and then up through 5" of chat (or whatever you call that sharp dense gravel stuff). I have to dig out the root in the dirt part by the path and then dig it up through the gravel trying not to break it. If its just the stragglers you are dealing with after getting rid of the solid mass planting, loosening the DAMP soil by just barely lifting it up with a shovel, grabbing the top of any plant showing itself and gently pulling works very well and leaves the lawn grass and soil in tact. The roots are strong enough to do that without breaking if the soil is moist. You will eventually get them all if you keep at it. Anger at the stuff was a great energy motivator for me. I had a period when I was obsessed with getting this stuff out.

Thanks for your post, J! You did it while IÂve been sitting here trying to figure out the whole lama/llama/lamasaries/monasteries conundrum! Not to mention the French/English translation! Ok, I got the translation, but from what IÂve found, a llamaÂthe spitting kindÂcan be spelled either way, depending on if youÂre talking about the genus of llama-type animals, or just one cute littleÂwell, make that cute bigÂllama. So you could both be right! Kinda! But IÂm still working on how specks turned into either lamas or llamasÂor monks! And now to you, Ms. Seedling Murderer! We need to get this fixed before somebody calls the cops on you! If your speck sprouts are falling over, they need more than misting. By now the root you canÂt see (no peeking) underneath the soil is 3 or 4 or 5 times as big as the part you can see above the soil, so they need to actually be watered when they get that dry. Since watering them from the top could disturb them (and you), fill a pan or bowl with water and sit the pot(s) in it until the surface of the soil looks wet, then take them out and let them drain really wellÂand get them back in the sun. I recommend you donÂt mist anymoreÂat least not enough to actually wet the surface of the soil. Two reasons. You could accidentally keep the soil too wet and they might damp off (lay down and die!), or, by keeping just the surface wet, you canÂt tell when the rest of the soil is drying out and you might have more things falling over because the soil down where the roots are trying to grow is too dry even tho the surface looks wet. I recommend watering them well whenever the top half inch or so is dry, and then donÂt water again till they dry out again. And gradually let it dry further and further down in the pot before watering. And, donÂt confuse me with monocot/dicot. IÂm already confused enough about the lamas/llamas! YouÂre still laughing at lamasaries, and IÂm still laughing at having a seedling murderer here! Do me a favor, J. Put a short post on the Fall Swap thread saying youÂre gonna try to make it. ThatÂs where IÂm picking up the names for my list, and that way others will see youÂre gonna come. And itÂll bump it back up to the top again too! ThereÂs not a whole lot of traffic around here these days, and I want to be sure everyone sees it. Thanks, Skybird

No pictures, but a great cat story! I was doing some yard work at my Dad's house, when I met his new neighbor. We talked for a few minutes, & he started to get into his car to leave. I was standing on the sidewalk when the other neighbor's cat walked up to me. He's big & fat & has a twisted ear (he was a rescue)but she named him what she thought would be right. So I'm on one side of the car, this person that I just met is on the other, so he doesn't know the cat is even there, & I naturally (greeting the cat!) say "Well hello there Handsome!" Boy did I get a funny look! I tried to explain that the cat is NAMED Handsome, but I don't figure this guy is going to forget me any time soon!

I am here, too! I remember the glass "flowers" being a hot item when I checked in more often. There were many, many discussion on the best adhesive to use. I still have plates, cups, pieces of rebar,etc., "ready" to be made into a flower or two. This is hopefully this Spring will see the final stage of turning an early 1950s concrete birdbath into a colorful Fairy Garden. I got it sandblasted this winter but am waiting for warmer weather to take it outside for painting. I have all the basic furnishings - including a pair of tiny Napcoware rabbits, a teeny-tiny ceramic frog, a ceramic bird house that resembles an English cottage, a twig fence, a terracotta flower fairy, a pair of ceramic butterflies to attach to the painted base, and a "found" piece of old rusty barbed wire that resembles a seahorse - or dragon! I am going to be so excited to send "it's completed" photos to my young niece that requested this project be done."