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Does anyone file Scheduled Processes for Veg Jelly and Chutney?
Comments (5)Thank you Carol for your reply! I will definitely contact her. I certainly am not the only one on the continent who wants to sell home preserved food! Amazingly I got a quick and helpful reply from my State's food safety officer in one day! The gist of it is -- that savory jellies and fruit/savory chutneys are low acid (pH >4.6) for the majority of ingredients with some acidification in the process to lower the pH but they are NOT exempt from filing a Scheduled Process as acidified food like fruit jellies are. Those are exempt (since they have a beginning and finished high acid equilibrium of I really try my best to jump though the hoops, comply with the laws, rules, and guidelines to be legally on the up and up, though finding information on what is needed has been a royal pain. I do so wish that Ball and NCHFP and So Easy to Preserve sites and books would outline what is needed if you want to SELL your home-canned products to the public, and even though each State has their own laws, the FDA is the ruler max. Why is this stuff so secret and hard to find? I've written an outline of what is required for my fellow local market vendors so that whoever wants to sell home-canned foods in my State will have all the info I had to scrabble to find. Maybe I'll write a white paper about it for the US and make enough money to pay for more food safety testing for my chutney's and pickles next! Nancy...See MoreCanadian Living as a safe recipe source?
Comments (8)Hi All, Daniela Payne, web food editor for Canadian Living here. Canadian Living has always developed its preserving recipes using the safe-preserving guidelines outlined by Bernardin, the Canadian canning experts who produce home canning equipment. We always follow their guidelines to ensure our recipes have the correct pH (in other words, are high enough in acid) to make them safe to process in a boiling water canner. We also follow Bernardin's guidelines on processing times, making sure our jars are boiled for enough time to ensure that any bacteria is killed. That's inevitably 10 minutes or more, but times vary depending on the density of the food in the jars and the size of the jars themselves - the denser the food or the larger the jar, the longer it should boil to ensure that the centre comes up to the proper temperature. The best insurance is to always process jars for the amount of time stated in the recipe - never reduce it. For our new preserving book, The Canadian Living Test Kitchen updated and retested many of our classic recipes, so they are all safe to can at home. If you want to check the acidity of, say, a heritage family chutney you're unsure of, you can buy a pH meter from a reputable source and test your preserves BEFORE you put them into the jars. High-acid foods should have a pH of 4.6 or lower - these are the only foods safe to can in a boiling water canner. Anything with a pH greater than 4.6 is considered low-acid and can only be processed in a pressure canner. Hope this helps! Happy canning....See MoreHabanero gold recipe?
Comments (33)Boy, if you arrive at a perfect understanding of commercial pectin, let us know. Annie and I both have discussed the unreliability of its performance. And now I'm trying to remember - I was just reading something from a big-time jam-maker. Sorry, can't recall who - who said the commercial pectins give preservers a false sense of infallibility. Ironically, regular commercial pectins (as opposed to NSA) require more sugar rather than less for the set. Now, to answer your questions. Powder and liquid are not interchangeable. Recipes for each are formulated differently. However, generally I have not had problems substituting one brand of the same type for another. For example, Certo liquid should work fine where I specified Ball liquid. It's purely personal but I like Ball better because I detect less of an obnoxious chemical aftertaste. I really loathe liquid pectin and use it only in Habanero Gold for that reason. Usually if you go to their websites, you'll see that makers of the NSA pectin (like that abbreviation) have formulated their own copycat recipes for these popular jellies which do make it possible to use much less sugar. However, I would guess at some point the hot-sweet balance might be lost. There's also the tartness of the vinegar to account for, and that can't be reduced because with all the peppers it's important to safety. However, cider vinegar has a natural sweetness distilled doesn't, so less sweetening would be required. You could take that peach-pepper relish I posted and try reducing the sugar with that. It doesn't call for commercial pectin, so there's more latitude as the thickening comes naturally from the long cooking down. However, as sugar is cut in those traditional recipes, the preserve loses its gloss and sheen; mouthfeel changes and the longevity of the product once opened is reduced. However, you mentioned preferring that tarter taste, so it's a possibility. You could also try a mixture of re-constituted dried apricots and peaches with the peppers for something akin to the Habanero Gold. I'm sure once Forum members start playing with that recipe they'll come up with all kinds of intriguing permutations. Carol...See MoreThings Mother Used to Make (1914) recipes
Comments (16)I agree - "mock" recipes are what they are... naming them might be the big drawback. When you get down to it, Mock Apple Pie made with Ritz Crackers has more of a lemon pie flavor than apple. However, the Mock Apple Pie recipe made with slices of zucchini is more like an apple pie, but it's hard to sell Zucchini Pie. As it turns out, EVERYTHING becomes suspect during a bumper zucchini year as it is. A neighbor gave me a jar of Mock Orange/Pineapple Marmalade made with grated zucchini and Jell-O. Historically, Mock Apple Pie can be traced back to the American Civil War when nearly every food item was in short supply. It was made with soda crackers, but even those have little in common with today's saltine crackers. Heck, even today's saltines are completely different in flavor than those just a few short years ago, as are Nilla Vanilla Wafers and many other food items. So we also have "mock" commercial foods as well (LOL). The irony about Mock Apple Pie, from the economics perspective apples are less expensive today than Ritz Crackers. I also have "tons" of dehydrated and freeze-dried apples to use and never have Ritz Crackers in the house. A Mock Apple Pie recipe could be found in the early additions of the Fanny Farmer Cookbook, along with mock Foie Gras, Mock Hollandaise, and Mock Maple Syrup (which is made with boiled potatoes, water, white and brown sugar and aged several days in a dark cupboard). I purchased some frozen peas so I could make a recipe for Mock Guacamole (Sweet Pea Mockamole - allrecipes.com), but haven't done it yet. Mock Turtle Soup was made with a calves head instead of a turtle - no further explanation necessary.... ewwwwww (Recipe found in the 1896 Boston Cooking School Cookbook by Fannie Farmer.) So if you start with another cut of beef instead of a calves head, would that make it Mock, Mock Turtle Soup or Twice Mocked Turtle Soup? There is a Mock Pumpkin Pie recipe made with Grape-Nuts cereal. I assume it was created when Mrs. Housewife couldn't get her children to eat Grape-Nuts. But then, we didn't eat Grape-Nuts until naturalist Euell Gibbons touted them in the 1960's. Mock Crab Cakes are made with grated zucchini. Mock Tuna Salad is made with garbanzo beans (vegans have a lot of great "mock" recipes). Mock Pecan Pie is made with oatmeal (it's all about that sticky sweet layer anyway - oatmeal works for me at a fraction of the cost of pecans). Mock Chopped Liver made with mushrooms might actually be an improvement. Mock Butterfingers - cornflakes and peanut butter. -Grainlady...See More- 15 years ago
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