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Comments (24)Do yourself a HUGE favor...bite the bullet, deal with your impatience, enroll in U of Guelph, and earn your MLA. I'm new around here, thus the late response...but I feel I'm qualified to give you some career advice. I'm a managing partner/owner (and RLA) in a Landscape Architecture and Civil Engineering firm. I'll be very frank with my response...my hope is that you'll take it seriously and not be offended. If I were to get a resume from you with the MLD from Conway as your highest level of education (along with your BA History of course), I wouldn't give you a second thought. With a promising cover letter, I MIGHT peruse your info to find out more about the Conway education but you would not be a candidate for any job openings. With the current massive layoffs in the industry, you will be up against some of the top talent in the field...believe me - I've already laid them off or seen their recently brushed off resumes. To sit for the LARE, in MOST states/provinces you'll have to ALREADY have completed 2+ years of apprenticeship under a licensed landscape architect. On top of that you'll be required to have a BLA or MLA from a CLARB accredited school (schools have to renew their accredidation with CLARB every few years and that in itself is no cakewalk for the institution). There are sometimes (depending on state/province) ways around the education part, and you could very well qualify with your work experience...BUT... And then of course is the test...I worked with a person who sat for it numerous times during a 15+ year career before passing (wasn't good with the grading and construction sections but was a great conceptual designer). And that's just the licensing part. Reading your posts, I believe you're ready to go into a MLA program...and I recommend and encourage you to do so if you're serious about this: "primary interest is along the lines of large scale design, subdivisions, parks, resorts etc." You will never do that type work without being a LICENSED/REGISTERED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. The profession is so much broader and truly design-based than plants, patios, and pergolas. I think you've realized that whether you know it or not. When I was in school, we students had an inside joke...we thought it was easier to get a degree in landscape archtecture than it was to quadruple-major in art, horticulture, engineering, and ecology. And for some perspective, you mention "2 of the 3 projects are on a scale that far exceeds garden design or even residential layouts..." In my BLA program (and I'm sure is the same across the board), we would do 4-6 projects on a scale that far exceeds garden design or even residential layouts in one class (each semester)...and that was only our studio course, which was on top of a couple of lecture classes and/or core-related electives. I could go on and on with reasons why you should get your MLA over the Conway certificate, but I don't want to wear my fingers out typing (I've got a little sketching to do tomorrow)...just do yourself, your significant other, and future family a favor and complete your education to prepare you for what (I think) you truly want to do. A few final and perhaps random thoughts: - You mention putting a time constraint on what you want to achieve...with the time constraint you'll never achieve your goal of designing subdivisions, resorts, parks, etc. - Listen to DD when he talks about the rules...they are in place and you have to play by them. - The Univ. of Guelph will prepare you for a great career in Landscape Architecture...my best employee (who I've unfortunately had to lay off) is a graduate and is an extremely talented designer who understands the design process and is effective at commuunicating his design intent, which is always very well thought out. Of all my employees, I think his education prepared him better than most. - You've got to quit equating "landscaping" and "landscape design" with "landscape architecture"...they are two totally different things and are on very different levels. You must embrace that fact. - And on plantings, planting design, and the horticulture end of our profession... There's currently great debate regarding how plants and planting design fit into our profession and if it is or isn't being given it's proper attention. I'm of the opinion that unfortunately it's on its way to being a lost art. IMO, it's our greatest medium, but too many don't appreciate and understand plants as well as they should; and many RLAs deal very minimally with plants and focus instead on other aspects and scales of the profession where individual plants don't come into play . Plantings are VERY IMPORTANT to my designs, but only about 10% of the work I do actually involves plantings...the rest is planning (at varying scales and phases), rezoning, grading/drainage design, hardscape design, construction administration/observation, coordination of plans and designs with other consultants, water quality strategy with my PEs, etc, etc. - Pick up a few books to see if they peak your interest...if so, enroll in Guelph...try these: Landscape Architecture: A Manual of Site Planning and Design by John O. Simonds Site Analysis: Linking Program and Concept in Land Planning and Design by James A. LaGro Jr Design with Nature by Ian L. McHarg The Social Life of Small Urban Spaces by William H. Whyte Those are a few...there are many more. Good Luck!...See MoreHow do I get started in a career in kitchen design?
Comments (16)Not that I'm a fan of the home center's kitchen departments, but it would be a great place to test the waters. They use 20/20. Plus you would get lots of computer and manufacturer training there. Make a plan to work there for at least 6 months. If you still like it, then send out your resumes to the local dealers. I honestly don't think that you could start out as an independant designer without more kitchen design and installation experience. And don't even consider buying 20/20 on your own. That would be cost prohibitive. Kitchen design is a wonderful career. I've been doing it for 23 years. But Livewire makes some VERY valid points. You can be a great designer, yet not make it in the KD world. Here's a list of traits/skills I personally think one needs to be a KD. Livewire, please add to the list if you think of any more: 1. creative 2. problem solver..."think outside the box" 3. be able to visualize 3D space 4. multi-tasking!!!! 5. good memory (product knowledge and technical (construction) knowledge) 6. Tough skin (you can't take things personally. You will lose jobs....even ones that you worked your tail off on!! Ones where the customers TOLD you that they were ordering from you...only to go with another company. You WILL get used...and you will have to learn from that. You have to be able to 'let it go'.) You'll also need tough skin if a customer yells at you for something. Stay calm. A few clients will lose their temper during your career, but I imagine in my thought that: they had a tough day....or maybe their mom is in the hospital....etc. 7. Detail oriented. There are so many things to measure and to consider, to ask....and to research! What's the wall height? The window trim width? Are the walls square? Is the customer using frameless or inset? How will changing that alter the design? Which cabinet line are they going with? If I Have to change over the design from brand A to brand B, how will that change the design? How much room for crown? How should I design the crown? The list can go on and on..... 8. Must be patient. It's like having kids...you never know what you're gonna get....with your customers. Most people are great to work with but you will get: nervous-nellies, nit-pickers, fighting couples, arrogant engineers, indecisive people....etc. You can't take things personally. 9. Listening skills: Don't think that you know it all (be humble). Even if your design is the absolute best for their room....it's still their room. And if they want this or that....even after explaining the brilliance of your design...so be it. People will get very angry if you don't give them what they want and they WILL go elsewhere. 10. Field experience: Installation knowledge and experience is very important. If you're in this business long enough, you will learn a lot from your installers. I recommend any new KD to be on the job during an entire install. 11. Problem solve: When problems arise during installation...you'll need to talk with the subs and the customers to devise a plan to action. I hope this helps! Kompy...See MoreWhich KT'ers have you met? Kathy wants to know!
Comments (51)The first two KTer's I met were Pat Lavender and FranCes....and my sister embarrassed me. She insisted on going with me in case one of them was an axe murderer. But now I know Wildchild is really the axe murderer. The only reason I have survived our visits is because I take her to Jocko's for steak. I remember going to a get together at Joni's in Ventura long ago and then a couple of them in Bakersfield I have pictures from a Tehachapi trip. I got rescued by Flamingo from a shopping mall in Branson...I think it was Branson. It is really great meeting KTers and hope anyone who travels on the central coast of California will contact me....See MoreAdvice for mid-life career change after cross-country move?
Comments (32)juddgirl, I'm a mid-life MSW and I'll say that it doesn't lead to many low-stress, low-confrontation jobs and most entry-level jobs for MSWs don't pay enough to warrant the cost of the degree. I'm in a job market similar to the one you'll face in Tennessee and nearly everyone I went to MSW school with five years ago regrets the degree due to low pay and high-stress positions. That said, if you do attend an MSW program you will make valuable community and employment connections while you are in school, and with your law degree in hand as well, you will no doubt have a different pool of jobs open to you than the "average" MSW. My advice to anyone of any age about getting an MSW is to find five people in the area where you might want to practice, who have been working as MSWs for at least five years, and ask them whether they would advise their own child or best friend to pursue an MSW. My experience suggests that 4 out of 5 will advise against it. My DD wants to follow in my footsteps and I am working hard to convince her otherwise. MSW school is a racket if ever there was one....See More- 15 years ago
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