If your stove has knobs, just pull off the knobs for the oven controls and stick them in a drawer. That's what I do for burners that I don't want used because I've got something on top of them. If it's digital, I suppose you could stick some electric tape over the control to remind you! :)

Karen, yes they sprouted on April 2 last year and the black metal grill and black plastic container I think speeds it up. They sprouted before the ones on a glass patio table but I forget by how much. The secret I learned from Trudi was place them in full sun. The year before I had them in part sun. They sprouted later that way... Trudi these are KBX again since I had so many saved seeds and KBX is one of my fave's. I also have a couple other containers not shown in the pic. I also plan on WSing a 56 cell flat of cosmos, zinnia and dahlia seeds next week after the big storm we are expecting Saturday. This will be my first year WSing annual flowers...:) If anyone is interested, here is the thread on the GW Tomato board where I compared WSing tomatoes vs. Traditional indoor starts: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tomato/msg0415370714513.html

Glenda, What you said is so true, and for decades now, if you say you eat or garden organically, a lot of people instantly lump you into that whole 1960s-hippie-back-to-the-land-movement (not that I mind that). Even when we moved here in 1999 and I put a big organic veggie garden in the front pasture, between the road and the house, everyone thought I was crazy. The old farmers and ranchers couldn't wait to tell me how I was doing stuff wrong and was going to fail. They didn't think much of my wide raised beds, narrow paths, hay mulch, companion plants ("you're wasting space on weeds") and (horrors!) my reliance on manure and compost instead of liquid fertilizers. When I refused to use pesticides, they gave up on me. One even said to me "You probably do yoga and eat granola". (I do! LOL) They also weren't impressed with the appearance of my heirloom tomatoes, which were the wrong colors, too lumpy and bumpy, etc. You know what, though? Every now and then over the years one or another of them has asked me about an organic solution for this or that, so I've won over a few of them. There are aspects of the green movement that bother me, including the way the government dumbed down the organic standards and allow practices which devoted organic gardeners never would use, but for which the commercial industry had lobbied. I do think a lot of the green news we hear has more to do with marketing than with doing anything for the right ethical reasons. Still, I do see lots of folks (many of them right here on this forum) who are quite serious about gardening in the most healthy way, eating organically when possible, etc. That gives me hope that we're realizing there's a better way to raise food and take care of Mother Earth too. The spice place made me nuts, but in a good way. I didn't want to leave. Tim just stood in the pepper room talking on his cell phone while I put bag after bag in the basket. At one point I handed him the basket to hold for me while I was looking for the turmeric, and he headed for the cashier's register, thinking I was done. I had to chase him down and say "Wait, I'm not finished yet!" LOL Silly guy. Just because the basket was full, he thought I was finished shopping. I want to know why Fort Worth has all these interesting food places now---they didn't have them when we lived there. Dawn

dc charlotte-can you just order your cabinets with space for a 36" range? I didn't have to get down to a specific make or model in order to place my cabinet order. I'm so obsessed with GW! When I see a new post on this thread, my heart nearly skips a beat! About the maual cleaning...no, that doesn't scare me. I have a self-cleaning oven now that I NEVER self-clean! In fact, I never used the self cleaner for the oven in my old house, either. Of course, I've completely let this current oven go to he** because I know it's leaving. I'm just hoping I'll be able to stay on top of it with the Fratelli. I kind of have to anyway, because DH is a very messy cook and our primary cook.