Replacing hard wired smoke alarm with battery powered
Tmnca
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Comments (110)I am adding an experience because I just went thru an all day nightmare where the AC alarms wired in sequence were going off randomly every 10-15 minutes for several minutes then stopping. My son and I replaced all 8 alarm batteries with new 9 volts - we also used a meter to determine that all removed batteries with one exception all had more than 9 volts remaining. Still no relief. Around midnight, out of sheer frustration, I took a can of pressurized air I used for cleaning my computer keyboard and went to the alarms and blew the air in the little vent hole. Problem solved on second alarm as soon as the burst of air hit it. It was the alarm closest to the kitchen in an adjoining hallway. Hopefully this will help others - I was really at the point of removing the alarms and replacing them. If it beeps once its battery, but the random long bursts is a whole different problem....See MoreHard Wired Smoke anywhere??
Comments (5)I'm not totally convinced this is the wiring solution you want. If you wire the smoke to those two capped wires (the black and the white), you may end up with a "switched" smoke detector. That is, are those two wires still controlled by a switch that is presently unused? If so, that means that if the switch is flipped, your smoke detector will be dead, and you may not even know it. What you want, IMO, is a hard-wired detector that cannot be turned off by a light switch. What's not known for certain here is: (1) whether those capped off wires are still hooked up to a switch and (2) if so, are those red wires "always hot" (i.e., never switched). Before I'd recommend this solution, I'd want a few mo' facts....See MoreSmoke alarm keeps going off!
Comments (10)Is your house a single story? If so and the alarms are in rooms or a hallway off the kitchen then, you may not be able to do much about it. Part of your problem is your venting...if you don't have a decent range hood you're going to be putting smoke, etc. in the air at times that has nowhere to go but up to the ceiling...and then spread out to the adjacent rooms. If the alarms are far enough away the smoke, etc. may disperse enough so the alarms aren't triggered, but if you have a lot of smoke, steam, etc. that cannot disperse quickly enough, you will probably set off the alarms. Find out if your alarms have a problem and whether you can remove the one(s) closest to the kitchen (but a kitchen is a common source of fires, so you may not be able to eliminate them). If you do everything you can and the alarms still keep going off, it may be time to consider getting a true range hood instead of an OTR MW/Hood...or at least get a better OTR MW/Hood that you'll actually use. (Consider a larger diameter duct and a remote blower so sound is reduced.)...See MoreDo you have a battery or wired smoke alarm?
Comments (28)I called the Fire Marshall for Toronto after seeing this exact topic being debated on another forum (I figured better to go to the source). According to the current code, new builds must have hardwired units (with battery back-up) and be combo smoke/CO2 units - and all rooms must be hardwired. But we live in an older bungalow so the there is a variance to the code, otherwise it would cost a fortune to run electrical wires to all of the rooms. However, we do have two hard-wired smoke alarms that were installed about 13 years ago that of course do not have battery back-up - one in the basement and one on the main floor. We will have to have an electrician change those for us to hardwired combo units. There is supposed to be a CO2 unit in the hall as well - well where would we put it - except of course as a hard-wired combo unit because the hall is short and narrow. Then there is the problem with placement of the units. We have a couple of the plug-in CO2 units, but you cannot use the second half of the outlet once a unit is plugged in. And in a small bungalow we do not have that many outlets. Next there is the issue that you cannot put them next to heat source - and of course the other electrical plugs are next to the gas heat grates. The list goes on. Two weeks ago we bought 3 combo units - they were not cheap ones. My husband put one up in the bedroom and we followed every rule for hanging it. It was good for a week and then it started going off 3 days in a row - and not the chirping sound of a dead battery - but a full blown, dog annoying beep. I moved a couple of the other units that we have that sit on tables into the room - nothing else went off. I called the manufacturer and the rep said that it would appear that the unit was defective and that I should try putting up one of the other ones. Well I really didn't won't to open another unit so I returned all 3. When we purchased them there were only 4 on the shelves and all had been taped back together - obvious returns so we would not touch them. The store associate found us 3 others up top. Now we do not know if someone just wanted spare parts for their units or like us the units kept going off so they were returned. So now we have holes in the wall. I asked the FirstAlert rep if there was a least a smoke detector that had the same size bracket and he said there was - of course I can't find it anywhere. So all in all it is not easy. I really don't like the units with the 10 year built-in battery because my alarm clock was supposed to have a 10 year battery and 1 1/2 years in it went - and I did not buy it at a clearout sale. I prefer to replace the batteries myself every 6 months. I once bought 2 units packaged together and they started to chirp at exactly the same time indicating they were toast. I think each person needs to find out the requirements for their area. In the meantime, the search goes on. One thing for sure is that if the fire dept. comes calling they will make certain you are compliant....See MoreTmnca
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