Upgrading 60 amps to 200 amps without major rewiring?
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Comments (24)I had an interesting variation on this situation (I've posted it here before). When my house plans were being formulated, my plumber, who was going to install the electric boiler and electric DHW, recommended 400A service. But, when the electric service was installed, only 200A was run (??, I don't know why, same GC). While the house was being built, one of the first things they did after enclosure, was to run the in-floor radiant heat (this was during the winter at temperatures as low as -20°). No problem, the workers kept warm enough, even though the window and door openings only had plywood over them. THEN, the GC realized his mistake and decided to upgrade to 400A which meant running a new line from the pole transformer to the meter (on a stand 150 feet away from the house), replacing the meter, and running a second 200A buried line to the house and installing a second load center. He said it was his mistake and would only charge me for the additional materials, but I'm not sure. My boiler can use up to 100A by itself (it's on a 120A circuit). Anyway, I still don't think the extra 200 was necessary but it's nice to have the second load center, the first one is full! Are your quotes for 200 or 300 Amps, or is that the difference?...See More20-Amp outlets throughout the house - a nutty idea ???
Comments (41)brickeye stated just to be argumentative: "All we are discusisng here is "20-Amp outlets throughout the house" so the entire statement is pointless in the present context, a house." But I had previously stated: "Reason I asked (sic: texasredhead) is that codemaking panels have tried for years to develop some sort of parameters to regulate the size of circuits and number of outlets on them to limit overloading, but none have never succeeded. One such scheme is the NEC's current one for residential wiring that requires 20 amp circuits for small appliance, bathroom, and similar power circuits. This is an attempt to reduce overloading by permitting the most common larger household loads to be served from larger cicuits. Another is the NEC's requirement to calculate receptacles at 180va for load purposes which has the net effect of setting a maximum number of outlets on any given 15 or 20 amp circuit." ------------ Apparantly brickeye does not know that the NEC code making panels consider adding the 180va limit for residential receptacles every code cycle.... Nor that my comments above were made in a direct exchange with texasredhead about his local code making panel in Texas now requiring 20 amps for all power circuits in a dwelling. So my responses completely to the point in the present context.... But now brickeye will just have another negative and baseless retort, as always, I'm sure.... (rolls eyes)...See Moreupgrading to 300 amp service
Comments (16)Thank you ronnatalie. I will do that. I've wanted a geo thermal system for over 25 years. Yes, its expensive upfront - I hesitated long over that, but thanks to the new Federal Tax Credit of 30% which is making it possible for me (Thank you Pres. Obama), plus a thousand back from my local utility company, its ROI through fuel savings looks to be about seven years. If I replaced my conventional system with another one and added a/c, which I do not have now, it would cost me a bundle too - I got estimates on several before making my decision. But, and this is the important factor - I would never get my money back because I would keep paying for oil or gas to run it even if I bought the most efficient system available. Nothing is as efficient as geothermal. It does run on electricity, but it doesn't take much to keep it humming. Yes, the solar voltaic panels are also expensive, and I thought long and hard about them too, but between NY state giving a tax credit, the federal government giving one and my local utility offering a generous rebate, I can just swing it, though it's going to be tight. The pay back on it will be about six years. After that, the majority of my annual power use will be covered by what is generated. I know others who are putting it in too, for the same reasons. The lady who cuts my hair and her husband put one in several years ago and love theirs. They have only four years to go before their power is free. Meanwhile, they love the days their meter runs backwards. I can say with confidence that the tax credits are putting a lot of people to work in the geo and solar fields. Installers from both are doing good business around here and are actively hiring, which is nice to see. As this is our forever home, I decided it's time to make it more up to date and functional. We've been making do with one bathroom for four people, a 6' x 9' kitchen and no closets as antique homes never had bathrooms or closets. The addition will allow me to put in two bathrooms and a downstairs bedroom for us as we age - and closets, finally. What I'm doing is not extravagant. No home theaters, no big garage, no pool. I will be putting in a foundation, shelling it in, then finishing it as we can. I spent today insulating part of what will be our new kitchen one day. I'm itching from fiberglass bits. You can bet that when the addition is uo and ready to be insulated - by me - I will be using ... denim. It's treated with boric acid so that it's fire resistant, bugs won't live in it and mice won't either. Which is a lot more than I can say for the dirty old fiberglass and rock wool insulation I have been pulling out. Yuck....See MoreUpgrading to a 200 Amp panel
Comments (14)Search for the answer, yes. Tacking on to a long dead thread is confusing. The cost of a panel is a few hundred dollars plus $10-20 for each regular circuit breaker. More if you need to comply with AFCI or GFCI in the panel. Installation of the panel alone could run $500-$2000 or more depending on what needs to be done. The cost of a new meter, meter base, and the drop is highly dependent on your local power company. Could easily add a thousand to the cost. Having to change anything else with antique wiring could easily run the price up over the base job. There just isn't any way to tell. The range is like $700-$20,000......See Morelonesparky95
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