It's crap.

I like how they posted a bunch of links to completely irrelevant things. Like the patent for a system for preventing static discharge in automobiles at gas stations. Said patent owned by Honda Motor Co.

I recommend using a "Flux Capacitor" to travel back in time before the aches occur.

I have several of these for sale at $250.00 each. E-mail me.

Don't buy that thing right now. Instead invest in my new company making self-winding sundials that glow in the dark. The profits from the investment will buy several of those mattress pads.

I have a large stock of CD rewinders that I can let go for cheap too!

For no extra charge I'll include a large bottle of Doctor Feelgoods Magic Pills. They increase the size of body parts that you wish were bigger and shrink parts that you wish were smaller. All at the same time with no dieting or exercise needed!! (A nominal S&H fee will be added to each order)

This is more than likely a scam and total waste of money. The paper on the study that it links to, is hardly scientific. I wouldn't even consider buying.

They make a statement on their website: "First, you cannot possibly hurt yourself by being grounded."

That's blatantly false. I can work on a live service drop (or hand any electrically live equipment) with bare hands when I'm NOT grounded. If I do that when I'm grounded, I'll become a circuit to ground, and get a very unpleasant shock.

Off-topic, RICE therapy works very well for inflammation and pain relief. This acronym stands for Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevation. Some web addresses with more details:

http://www.shs.unc.edu/library/articles/rice.html

http://www.sexyloops.com/articles/rice.shtml

Here is a link that might be useful: RICE

Totally wacko. These people are criminals....

I hope some of you who have mad fun of me over asking, if this could help, never have the pain I have as I try to find anything to give me hope.You never know what day you or someone you love will wake up to to find you health gone
so I won't come here again for help,but for the next person please be a little kinder for It may be you. thanks to the ones who answered without the jokes

JJ, please don't get upset. The comments aren't directed at you, but rather at the author of the website you referred us to.

It would be wonderful if everyone got the kind of science education that would allow him to properly judge the merits of such claims. However, that just doesn't happen. But specialty education DOES allow some folks to evaluate the situation, and this is one place you'll find them.

I'm glad that we were able to warn you about this. It'd be a shame for you to waste your time and money on such nonsense.

I hope you do find relief somewhere. Good luck!

"I want to buy it for pain and inflammation but afraid its a scam." No one made light of your suffering nor poked fun at it. The mattress pad is a scam. Falling for a scam introduces additional suffering, not necessarily physical. Have you seen the movie Patch Adams?

There are many people with cronic pain that some doctors seem to think is in their mind. I have two close friends with CP and one wears an inplanted device to control pain from a nerve-end problem. Unfortunately, there are many scam artists eager to prey on people with CP.

Well, if you don't want the grounded mattress pad, I'll sell you one of my new patented and highly technological insulating mattress pad. Made of the finest dielectric material, you can be assured that you will be isolated from the higher potential surface that may be present in your mattress.

This is all explained in my new book "Dielectrics" where I investigate the principle of the Capacitive Mind. -- L. Ron Natalie

I think JJ was just another spammer.

As "JJ" has posted that same link in several other threads, completely off-topic, I'm pretty sure they were, as you say, just another spammer..

jj-
I don't think anyone is making fun of you. We're trying to prevent you from being taken advantage of. This is a scam...

no I am not a spammer. I only wanted advice as to if this really could work and that is why I ask about this on other forums. anyway I finally bought and recieved a cheaper sheet from anther website called EMF safty garments,put this sheet on my bed and when I lay on it for a while I feel a strange electric sensation on my legs back and feet.Also must say so far I still have my swollen joints and my pain,so i can't say it is helping me. thanks

this site talks of benefits of grounding and their not trying to sell anything.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15650465&dopt=Abstract

Posts like this really make me want to spend my (limited remaining) time on other things. I posted earlier my opinion, as did many others. No payment nor, in this case, any gratitude. Not one person responding here agreed that this pad has any merit except to enrich the vendor of these specious devices. This person who posted originally either is a troll, or did not come seeking advice, but approbation. By all means, buy two of the mattress pads.

jj54, My mother, who passed away 2 years ago, had some serious pain and health issues. She was desperate for a cure and was taken by some of these scam artists who prey on people in this situation. There is a non profit organization that is dedicated to investigating and warning consumers about miracle cure scams.

Here is a link that might be useful: Quackwatch

Those EMF safety sheets are the real thing. You're right, the government wants to suppress them because they secretly want people to suffer. In fact the older you are, the more pain they think you should have.

The reason you still have your pain is that you didn't buy enough of those sheets. Buy 10 more while you still can, before the government takes them away from you. Put 5 of them on your bed. Then you will feel 5 times as much electricity as you do now, and the healing process will finally start. If you can get one of those metallized space blankets to put under them, that will be even better, because the electrical fields will bounce back and forth and gain energy. This will bombard your joints with healtful positrons.

Send the other 5 sheets to me, along with all the money you have left. You must clean out all your bank accounts. I will soak the sheets in my special blend of magnesium sulfate, palladium citrate, and secret healing herbs. I will send them back to you. Put them over you, right under the blanket. It should be another of the metallized space blankets. I guarantee you will be cured!

Not really. April Fool. ;-)

The above is completely made up, but it's not that much different from what quacks used to write in ads and say to their patients in the late 19th and early 20th century, when electricity was a mysterious thing and people, not knowing much about it, could be snowed easily. These charlatans made their fortunes by relieving patients of far more money than ills. Sometimes the patients felt better through the power of their own belief, but mostly they just told their friends and relatives that the "cure" worked because they were too humiliated at having been cheated to admit that it was bogus.

The report to which you link describes research that was published in the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine. No mainstream journal would have published it. The methodology is highly questionable. The experiment was performed on only 12 subjects. Most significanly, no control group was used, so there is no way to be sure that factors other than "grounding" affected the measured results. Self-reporting in research subjects is notoriously inaccurate - useless, really - because it is too easily affected by suggestion. There is also no indication that the study has been peer-reviewed.

Oh yes, the "researchers" - you might think they were specialists with background in neurology or sleep disorders. You would be wrong. They are in Family Practice. You can find them here.

I am going to say it bluntly. You have been ripped off as thoroughly as any person was 100 years ago. I hope it's not too late to send that worthless junk back and get a refund.

davidr -

You mentioned EMF's in your last post. I have read books, studies, and articles pertaining to the possible negative health effects they can cause. What's your thought on this matter? Feel free to google "Emf's and pineal gland"
Studies have been proven that certain devices like your clock radio near your bed emit high EMF's which affect your pineal gland (in your head) and reduce the melatonin levels in your body. Melatonin is strikingly important to one's immune system.

Anyone else have information on this?

This whole thing is a major scam on this board. First jj posts all over the place about these sheets and then ronnatalie shows up selling them and refers to his/her web site. People hawking their wares has no place on this board. We spent way too much time on this whole scam.

Since we developed and live in the natural magnetic field of the earth it is not going to have any effect.
In electromagnetics is does not matter if the field is varying ot the object is moving in a static field.
Unless you plan on not moving, or living insed a mu-metal box for shielding against static magnetic fields, simply moving about on the earth already prioduces planty of induced currents.
Well down in the nanoampere range.

I suspect that Ron N had his tongue in his cheek when he posted that "ad."

People don't seem to learn how to evaluate allegedly scientific claims critically, either at school or at home. I read a while back about a schoolteacher who got into trouble for teaching the students to be skeptical about advertising. Apparently some parent called this "Unamerican" or some such nonsense. Incredible.

To ZPP: High level RF is a known hazard, but we're talking about the steeplejacks who climb radio and television transmission towers with 50 kW of radiated energy. The engineers at the stations are supposed to crank down the power while the steeplejacks are on the tower, but some don't. Occupational hazard, I guess.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the microwave oven was invented by a man who watched birds fall out of the sky when they flew in front of a huge radar antenna.

It's pretty well established that high level, high frequency ionizing radiation isn't too healthy for humans. However, it's not at all clear that these hazards scale to RF levels in the microwatt range.

What's more, EMF is a different critter. As used by the FUDdies (FUD = Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), it's synonymous with ELF (extremely low frequency) fields. These are handy for FUDding because of their ubiquity ("it's all around you in the walls of your house!"). However, the frequency of mains AC is several orders of magnitude below the ionizing frequencies that are known to cause harm. (By the way, the code requirement to keep circuit conductors together ensures that fields cancel each other out in the walls of your house.)

I remember about 10-20 years ago when the FUD was over electric blankets. "You spend 8 hours a night under one!" was the mantra then. Even though there was never any conclusive evidence that anyone had been harmed by an electric blanket, the electric blanket manufacturers acted to kill the debate. They just revised the design so that any EMF would cancel out, as it does in your home wiring. All they did was juxtapose internal wires in which the current flow was opposite.

Still, it seems as if every few years somebody comes up with yet another health hazard attributable to EMF, and the web buzzes with this "studies prove" business. The "entrepreneurs" immediately leap into to fray with their overpriced "shields" and other "EMF protection" gadgets. The tabloid-style websites get all breathless about the grave dangers of EMF.

Oddly, the web doesn't seem to make as much noise about the followup studies that often at least partially refute the findings.

The truth is that there has not yet been any really conclusive evidence that EMF causes harm to humans at any level normally encountered.

If you want to be safe from radiation, don't climb broadcasting towers, and don't stand in front of satellite uplinks and radar antennas. If you talk on your cellular phone as much as the average high school kid - hours a day - you might consider using a headset to get the RF away from your head. But low frequency EMF? IMO, worrying about EMF is more likely to harm you than the EMFs are.

I hope some of you who have mad fun of me over asking, if this could help, never have the pain I have as I try to find anything to give me hope.You never know what day you or someone you love will wake up to to find you health gone
so I won't come here again for help,but for the next person please be a little kinder for It may be you. thanks to the ones who answered without the jokes

I didn't make fun of you only because there's no point - your post makes more fun of you than anything we could say.

I live with chronic pain ever since a bad automobile accident several years ago. I've never used it as an excuse for my stupidity.

If you bought one, I think you got what you deserved.

If you really have pain, and aren't simply a spammer, then go see an M.D.

then ronnatalie shows up selling them and refers to his/her web site

That was a joke, son.
No mention of a web site given.

Wonder if Senator Claghorn had a website?

"Also, if I'm not mistaken, the microwave oven was invented by a man who watched birds fall out of the sky when they flew in front of a huge radar antenna."

Actually, A Raytheon engineer melted the chocolate bar in his pocket and the Amana RadarRange was born.

just want you all to know,first I do go to a doctor and am on lots of meds,which have not helped. this reply is for the one in the auto accident.So now the good news as of sunday I have no pain at all I guess I was to quick to judge as to if it would help or not,so glad I gave it a chance.

david r. you have almost stumbled upon my pain curing mattress cover i have patented only last year. you are partially correct in that you place the 5 dielectric sheets over a metallic space blanket. however, you failed to realize that you require 7 space blankets, not just one. first, on top of the mattress goes the first space blanket. then you lay a dielectric blanket on it, then nother space blanket etc, layering them until you are done, sandwiching until you have one last space blanket on top. you plug in the bottom space blanket into a 240 outlet for approx, five minutes. unplug and then jump on top of the mattress... the theraputic sensation should begin almost immediately.

davidr

If I may add to the EMF thoughts.

EMF is very common in homes. The research disputes leave the matter not completely settled but it does look like there is little chance that this type of low level EMF is dangerous. However, EMF is common because of three basic wiring issues in addition to appliances themselves. The first is a common mistake.

#1 Accidentally or purposely tying neutrals together that don't belong together. One may find this at large switch boxes with more than one circuit and the electrician just grouped all of the neutrals together. Electricity follows all of the available paths and then the conductor wires are no longer in close proximity.

#2. Appliances and dimmers "leak" just a tiny bit onto the grounding system. All grounds are tied together at every box. These tiny leaks all add up and with so many paths to take it results in EMF again because the conductors are no longer in close proximity to each other.

#3. The main electrical panel to water pipe and gas pipe bonding. One can find emf on many water pipe and grounding electrode conductors. Neutral connections at your own or neighboring homes can create EMF on these paths. A home with a poor neutral connection to the utility can operate because the water pipe bonding provides another path down the pipe, down the street to other homes which may have better connections to the utility.

Greetings,

Strange thing, my doctor who is also a DO not only uses one but encourages its use. Understand He does not sell them.

Richard