Marvin Integrity Ultrex fiberglass
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Comments (7)Back with more help needed. The aluminum windows from Milgard are not available with a thermal break or otherwise at all in California. The Style Line vinyl from Milgard also isn't available in awaning or casement like we will need (plus after seeing the varying thickness of the vinyl we don't want them). Our next shot was with Marvin Integrity Ultrex fiberglass inside & out wiht a sheet rock return - we would need to do some re-design on our plans as they aren't available in the larger sizes we want with 3 windows side by side etc... So we are looking for other options and need help!!! We don't want wood or vinyl if we can help it - we would prefer fiberglass at this point, but would go with aluminum if we have to. Again this is for a modern home - so a bronze or dark finish on the outside - sheetrock return with pain white on the inside is fine. The Blomberg windows would work - but will be pretty expensive, ditto with Inline...So I am looking for some better choices. Thanks!...See MoreMarvin Integrity all Ultrex vs Marvin Infinity
Comments (3)In my opinion, the Marvin Integrity that is all ultrex in and out is just plain ugly and cheap looking. The Infinity is a much nicer looking window. I also remember a Marvin rep telling me a few years back that Infinity utilized a thicker guage fiberglass and it was built better. The jamb on the integrity is very narrow and not 3 1/4 like most replacement windows. I do not like the Integrity ultrex at all....See MoreSo is Marvin's Integrity better than Pella Pro-line?
Comments (9)Hi, this is not a "better" or "best" answer :-), just sharing our older research data. ProLine is Aluminum clad while Integrity is Fiberglass, so they are not Apple to Apple. Here is some 3-yr and 3-month old info: 1. Pella was using "rolled" aluminum at the time. Extruded Aluminum supposedly has more uniform strength and thickness. This seems logical. At a window shop, we saw a cross-sectional view of extruded and rolled. The difference was along the "bent" edges. The extruded had uniform thickness and thicker too. The rolled looked good on the outside but around each sharp "bend", we can see slightly thinner metal. Will this be a problem? I really do not know. 2. Pella uses Endura coating versus the Kynar coating to protect the Aluminum. Kynar is used on cars to protect against light chip, dent, scratch and to protect paint from fading. Kynar is supposedly better but I am not chemist. :-) We do have experience with Kynar on our door. After wind whipped gravel smacked our doors, we could find no dents and no scratches. No first hand experience with Endura. 3. Fiberglass is a tough inert material and moves very little in heat and cold. It moves just a hair more than glass. Aluminum moves several times (5?) more than glass. Vinyl moves a lot in heat and cold, a large number of times (10?) more than glass. We opted for solid wood, so no first-hand experience here. 4. We found two reports (3 yrs ago) of fiberglass windows not working well at a UC Berkeley parents/homeowner's forum. One had to do with joint seperation/splitting. One had to do with seal failure. Forgot to write down the brand, sorry. At the same time, some 10+ homeowners happy with their fiberglass installation posted their positive experience. So may be just the 1% defect in the 99%? 5. Wife and I love wood so we are very picky when it comes to wood. Based on what we saw then, and taking directly from my old notes :-), Pella had noticeable gaps while Marvin seemed tight. Pella wood choices were ho-hum while Marvin wood choices had tight beautiful grains. If you plan to paint the wood, then it does not matter. We learnt at end of our research that there is really no "best" or "better". With all things being equal (Aluminum vs Aluminum, Fiberglass vs Fiberglass), we do pay for what we get. Cheaper competing models made with similar material are not always bad but manufacturers do have to compromise in various places to save cost in order to lower price. We, as buyers, just need to know where those compromises are. We can then decide if we should pay more for less compromises or pay less for more compromises. Nothing beats looking at and touching the models in person. Good luck to you both....See MoreOpinions on Marvin Integrity (wood-ultrex) and Marvin Infinity
Comments (4)You are looking at three product materials with different pros and cons. I can say that each product that you've seen is highly regarded, but for very different reasons. You will want to assess your priorities for the project to determine which is the best fit. All are well made quality products. -Performance? -Appearance? -Cost? -Value (very different than cost)? -Warranty? -Longevity? -Option content? -Perception by others (including guests and/or future buyers of your home) If I could make a chart, the Okna would skew toward performance, value, cost, and warranty, the Ultimate toward appearance, perception, option content, and the Integrity/Infinity as somewhat of a bridge between the two. Not as good in the "good" areas of each choice, but not as bad in their weaker areas either. Whether that makes it a "glass half-empty" or "half-full" proposition depends on your perspective....See More- 9 years ago
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