Well, I would have been totally fine with the Insinkerator flange, lettering and all, but the one above was cheaper. Some webstores charge as much as $75 for the Insinkerator flange! Hi Karen! I guess we're getting close? Demo starts on Monday, appliances are all ordered except my ovens (waiting for the new model to come out), new doors and windows will be delivered soon, cabinets ship in 2 weeks. I'll be spending the weekend emptying all my cabinets and moving furniture. They're taking down all the dry wall from the ceilings in the kitchen, dining room and family room and knocking down a wall, so I expect a huge mess. I still haven't chosen faucets, prep sink or lighting, and haven't yet found a fabricator for the stainless steel countertops. I don't even want to begin to think about what I'm doing for a backsplash. I have the feeling I'll be forced into making some quick decisions soon after demolition begins. I hope you and your DH and your little ones had a wonderful holiday! How are your design classes going? Erika

I don't have pics handy at the moment, but in my last house we had a 33" copper apront-front farmhouse sink. We also have a slightly smaller copper apron-front farmhouse sink in the temp house we're living in now (we are currently building). Both of the aforementioned sinks are flush mount installation. I personally like the look better than an undermount installation, and it really sets off the sink nicely. I will say that wiping crumbs into the sink is not as easy or as tidy. Taking all this into account, I am doing the same installation in our new house. I just think it looks so purty. Hope that helps a bit.

just wanted to commiserate with you on the plumbing problems. We have an old house were the plumbing was added later. They dug under one end of the house about 10x10 with an exterior entrance, and all the plumbing was put on that corner. We wanted to put in a bathroom closer to the bedrooms and move the kitchen, so we had to run the pipes under what would be the new bathroom floor. Kitchen sink had to be installed on the same wall as the bathroom sink, with the pipes and drain/venting going through the wall into the bathroom cabinet, then down into the floor. As it was, the distance was almost too long for the drop and to still be able to hook up to the outgoing line. That would have required a lift pump in the cellar, not something we wanted to consider. This is the bathroom side of the wall. If we ever have problems, our cheapest solution will be to hand dig a trench under the bathroom to access the pipes. Hope that never happens. I don't think we would have room for a garbage disposal either, as the drain goes into the wall and then down. Since we have a septic system, doing without a disposal was not a hard choice.

@joseph_corlett I'm curious, what does it take to replace an apron front sink with a different apron front sink? To me it looks like many of these apron fronts even of the same size have different footprints. So it seems to me (and I'm no expert so I'm aware I could be wrong) you are having to deal with at best, cutting the new shape out of the countertop and cabinet or at worse having to replace those two things in whole or in part. While I've no doubt for a pro like you its entirely doable it seems like it would be expensive and definitely not a DIY job. My reasoning, and this is entirely for my situation, has a lot to do lean years and unexpected job losses. I'm in a secure time in my life but I never take that for granted or assume that I'd be able to absorb an expensive sink trade out in the future. I hope I will be able to if it comes to it, but of the two choices I had at the time cast iron seemed safer (as in it may be ugly but at least it doesn't leak) while still giving me the look I wanted. I would have seriously considered that Elkay sink if it had been available though, however I don't think it would have fit, I didn't have room for a 36" cabinet. I remember wishing they'd had those granite sinks in a white apron, but at least at the time that wasn't an option either. OP, there is definitely a mix of what is entirely practical and what you just want (consequences-be-damned) that goes on in re-doing a kitchen that is for sure! Though anytime you can find something tough that matches pretty close to what you want its definitely worth an extra expense, IMO. If not you weigh the risk of something not working out with how bad you really want it and then - decide. You live with every decision you make, but I've found that even the decisions that don't turn out like you wanted still tend to be better than what you get from a kitchen you inherited from a previous owner.