Bump - I am in a world of hurry and sure could use some help. In one day last week, my dryer stopped working, the hot water heater quit and the painter who was hired to paint my cabinets, remove wallpaper and paint - sold his company and stopped returning my calls. The kitchen ceiling is already down and I have about 2 weeks to get some things done. Which may drive some decisions...... I started with only a small cosmetic update - and you may identify with me that as we've gotten into it, it's grown. Anyway, IF I can decide on a farmhouse sink and could get delivery in about 2 weeks, I would love to have one. I have been reading this website for a couple of yrs and I know about lead times, but I'm just hoping someone could answer one question at least today. If I have my laminate countertop cut for a 33 x 22" sink which I have now, can I swap it for another sink later? I will have to live with top mount - no other choice at this late date. Any guidance would be seriously appreciated. By the way - here's what happened last week... - the kitchen designer showed up and found me a painter inside of 20 minutes who came over an hour later and bid $600 less on the job than the first guy, the hot water heater had the vacuum hose knocked off from a kid standing a piece of wood next to it and falling over - so fixed in literally 1 minute and the heating Co didn't charge me for stopping by, and mysteriously, the dryer is still limping along which is good because I really don't have time for it right now. I felt like I had the Divine Hand handling it all because I didn't even freak with 4 different trucks in the driveway and total chaos.

Thanks for your responses and compliments! Please continue to send faucet information if others have any to share! circuspeanut, glad you like my sinks! The original sink is one of the selling point for me about this house. DH wanted to get rid of it when updating the kitchen, and replace it with a new, undermount sink. I had to say NO to that idea every time the kitchen update project was mentioned (we are DIY, hubby VERY handy with his tools :) "blush") ! He finally got the picture that I REALLY want to keep the sink, so, after 16 years, we are proceeding with the kitchen project with sink in place! Well, he actually moved it out from the cabinets and raised it a couple inches. Love it! Thanks for the links for the faucets. I'm really wanting something with a little more character than those, preferably some curves. I've seen some, even ordered one, but the spout reach ended up being too far. mom2lilenj, I like that faucet. It is the one I had decided on if I can't find something with a little curve to it. Could you tell me how high the soap dish is above the faucet? Actually, the measurement from the bottom of the bridge to the top of the soap dish would be great! DH extended my windowsill a few inches, giving me a wide shelf above the sink for my pots of herbs, and I'm hoping the soap dish wouldn't interfere with that. Do you like having the soapdish attached to the kitchen sink? I'd love to see a photo of your kitchen, and another of the sink area. Care to share? danielleak450, I love the type sink you mentioned having also! My sink is original to the house, and these are the original kitchen cabinets. However, the sink had been undermounted for about 90 years and you couldn't see the "bulk" of it until this kitchen update! We recently removed the sink (fireclay, 42inch, very heavy) with the help of a jack, and DH cut the sink base cabinet down to accomodate the front edge of the sink, exposing the apron while raising the sink to a more appropriate height for me. He also had to extend the area under the window sill and behind the sink backsplash in order to move the sink out. I love what we came up with! The wide shelf is going to be great for my herbs this summer. buffalotina Our kitchen cabinets are origninal, except that DH had to alter the sink base to expose the sink as shown above. They were painted "wild berry" when we bought the house in the early 90's! I quickly toned them down to Ralph Lauren "country stove white" and that color has worked well for me all these years. As I mentioned above, DH is very handy, and I recently talked him into building me a butlers pantry with cabinets to match the kitchen ones. He did all the work himself, and they are a great match! We were even able to find hinges and he altered the mounting style, so they look like the originals as well! I can give you information on those if you are interested. I'll post photos of the before and after, so far. Keep in mind, I'm still looking for the perfect paint color (a tan green) and final touches. before now-added antique stove (for storage and serving surface), raised sink up and out, new countertop, drawer pulls, bead board backsplash - still needs paint, rug, new faucet, final touches New butler's pantry DIY, cabinets and all-still needs paint, dw panel to match cabinets, and a few final touches

I'm not a fan of a sink with an upper over it. I think you need to stand too close to the front of the door, no matter what. But if you are determined to do that, then by all means I would consider using a farm sink and bumping it out. That means setting it proud (forward) of the front of the sink cabinets and the adjacent base cabinets. I have this arrangement (my sink cabinet is bumped out as well) and it makes working at the sink extremely comfortable because I get farther over it. The trick is in the selection of the sink. The classic Rohl fireclays are the same all the way around. The sink on the floor upthread is the same. But some farm sinks have notches on the side to fit against the cabinet fronts. Some have a flange. Before you choose/buy it's important to figure out how you want the sink to look and then choose one that will do what you wish. There are so many choices, even in SS it shouldn't be a problem. One factor is whether you prefer a 0 radius sink (square corners) or a more traditional sink with rounded corners. How far you want the sink to protrude -- mine stick out 2 inches in front of the cabinet. One sink upthread has the curved front and doesn't protrude much. Etc. Lots of photos on the link plus a farm-sink installation tutorial that will explain the general concept. Here is a link that might be useful: Farm Sink Gallery

I do have the rounded front copper sink and love it. It's best if you can plan to have it pushed forward to show off the the sides. The front of the sink at the top of the curve is 29" from the wall and the sides are about 3" from the cabinet face. The sides curve around full height and stop about 3.5" back so you can support it from the underside. You will need to build a frame before installing the countertops. If you have an island or narrow kitchen make sure you have room for the curve. The deck at the back of the sink is 9" deep. I posted one picture on your other thread, but I'll add some detail photos here. Mine is 10" deep, I did consider the 8" but ended up going with the deeper and will use shorter doors from a bathroom vanity to replace the original ones which were in bad shape. This one is undermounted, but you will probably need to flush mount an 8" deep sink with the counter if you are trying to limit modifications to the existing sink cabinet. The sink and cabinet before Yuck, glad it's gone! The modified cabinet with 2x4 frame for the sink. We did have to cut a 1/2" off the face frame to fit the sink. Test fitting the sink around midnight before the new counters arrived in the morning. The flange of the sink needs to fit over the top of the 2x4 frame along with the sides slipping back enough to hide the edges so you have to plan the placement of the screws not to interfere with the sink. Detail of the granite rounded to show the top of the sink. This required a lot of thought and negotiating with the granite crew because if the granite goes straight you would have an odd shaped gap there. The installed sink and faucet --Yay! There's a lot more to do to finish the cabinet, but I'm really pleased with the result so far.