Hi Kim...Don't be all worried...This thread is not meant for that..:-) It is just to keep our friends well informed and to teach others what to look for and be aware of, and up to us to decide what to do with it.. We just deliver the news and the public choses what they want to do.. If I were you, I would be more worried of not knowing what could possibly cause harm to your plants than to find out too late, possible after throwing a plant away after it's demise the way many I know had to do in the past. Now you are armed with information that will help you stay ahead of the game in case it happens, avoid future problems, and if you should have any problems from not taking precautionary steps, how it could of started, and what to watch for when you do visit places that sell plants or when you receive them from any source.. I would just keep a close eye on them, and if you notice any strange happenings with your plants, check your cultural habits.Be informed about how to care for them as best as you can learning from these forums.. Learn as much as you can about those jades and what keeps them healthy and happy..Visit the Cactus and Succulents forum..There are jade threads galore.. I would defiantly have a magnifying glass available, and this thread at your disposal if your plants should ever encounter the problems associated with pest's spoken of here.. Josh...My sister loves the point of peat moss you brought up..She says thanks! I say thanks for your advice too.. Rhizzo..Good point..Thank you for that and your offerings!:-)))) Danny: Fantastic points and thank you for what you added to this thread..Your comments mean a lot ..Thank you much. Hi Pug....You are the best! I can only hope that many of us never have to deal with "citrus minor" and other hurtful bugs your way..Do you have enough good predators to combat these type of insects, or do you have to treat your plants? Thank you Nancy... Linda..We learn something new everyday, don't we? That is what I love about these forums and one should never be afraid to freely express what they feel and think about their plants and how they view, handle them..Better to be informed than to withhold from each other what could other wise hurt/ harm their plants..Good job, Bo: Happy growing to you too..Thank you for your input and your words..I hope your babies are doing good.. Mike:-)

I am a slave to the weather channel. We have it on first thing in the morning, and I always look at the weekly outlook- highs & lows. Once the temps start staying above 40 or so at night, I start the plant-out (this is a personal thing, as I see that recluse uses 30. I don't have enough info to know which ones are hardy enough to take the lower temps, so I just use 40+) If the temps dip after that, I'll toss a cloche over them for the night. I also like to use the 15-day forecast over at accuweather.com, but obviously if the weatherman can't get it right for 2-days out, it's unlikely that they really know the 15-day outlook. But I'm only looking at the temps, so knowing that the earth's orbit is relatively stable (wink), I can rest assured that they may at least have THAT part pretty close. Planting out: It depends how thickly I sowed them. Unlike recluse, I "sprinkle and go" with many many containers. This might mean entirely too many seeds in a container, but I've found that it makes for a good show when planted out HOS. If I got super-good germination and a totally green container because I sowed WAY thick, I'll do WAY small HOSs. Some of my annuals like Marigolds and Zinnias I don't do HOS, but most things I do. They can duke it out after they're in the ground. HOW you plant out is very much relative to how detail-oriented you are. If you're very specific about how you do things, it may throw your whole world into an uproar to try and do a plunk 'n run technique. Of course, depending on how many containers you got out there, you may find yourself plunking, running, and drinking heavily due to the stress of HAVING to do it at some point ;)

lots of reasons. some you can solve by lateral moves, others not so much. so think of this. you work at pizza hut. a customer comes in and wants to eat there, but brings their own pizza. offers to pay you to cook it..but minimal payment for use of your tools expertiese ect. sounds crazy doesn't it. but to the pizza hut worker/mgr..it is insulting, cheap and not something they would be willing to do. so how to get them to do it...overpay them. where is your profit from what you saved online now? and hopefully, before they slid your pizza into their pizza oven..the didn't spit on it. why...cause its human nature. think about some wisea$$ comming to your job and expecting you do do whatever you do..for lesser cost, cause they got a deal. people want to save money..we get it. and online prices look so much better than actually paying for the things you don't see when you purchase your equipment from hvac installer. we have experience, insurances, support if things go wrong. even then for you online shopper... who warranties the equipment? sure you can go online & warrenty with mfg but that leads to second question...who services the unit? the guy you hired to install it? see...when you 'think' you know more than the company you hire..it leads to some very human responses. hvac company will charge you a premium price to install equipment you purchase from someone else. they will hesitate to do the work..then as things go wrong..you'll pay over and over for undercutting them in the first place. so..think it would be simpler to hire one company to do the discounted profit install and another to do any work later? ahhh in a perfect to you world. we talk to each other..and in my area we all know who will jack us, pick apart every move we make..and who has the faith in us to just let us do our jobs. we charge them accordingly. ever wonder why one bid is $xx higher than the other one..your personality tips us off. so we know going in..that it will take longer than usual due to interference. so pita charge is added. we call it different things, but it is the cost of doing business with someone questioning every move due to some half baked idea that they know more than us. sure you can hire some hack..save a few more bucks..but we make really good money going back and straightening out these jobs. really good money. what you save upfront...you pay in the long run times 2 or 3 times more. this company who agrees to do work on the side is stealing from the company owner by doing work on the side. want to hire a crook to do your install? think of what they risk by doing this..losing their job..and having a hard time in the hvac community cause now every owner knows they can't trust them.. hey but you got a deal! good techs, are paid well by their employers and would NEVER do this. a company that agrees to do an install of online equipment..is either the low ball guy who does it fast bad & cheap..or you lucked into a good company going through a slow time who needs the work. the latter being about as common as wings on a pig. install is as important as equipment. you'll read us commenting upon that over and over. good equipment & bad install..you get crap. problems over and over. I'm in the trades. While I don't do hvac, I am licensed and have experience. Even went to school for it. I go to heat pump association meetings & know all the players in my area.and how they all gossip like a bunch of teenagers. so last summer...I was ready for my central install. ran all my duct, inside conditioned space, built fur downs for duct. converted my linen closet into heating closet. platform installed & sealed, supply plenum ready to be installed. Return sealed & filter rack installed. I had heating system(ahu) delivered & we sat it in place, did all the electrical. did electrical & pad for condensing unit. ran copper lines. ran wire for tstat and had tstat installed. condenser delivered. because I can buy from my local supply house, the first company I called to do the start up was realate to supply house manager. (and start up was ONLY to braise the copper lines & check refrig charge..sub cool & super heat) first cost quoted to me for this hour and a half job $1000. break down that cost for two guys. next price..$1050 getting the picture yet? and keep in mind this was just for using torch, gauges & maybe a little 410. so I did it myself. took me an hour. in the rain. borrowed torches & tank of 410, used my own gages. paid my friend a couple of hundred for use of torches & the lb of freon I didn't use. but..see..I know what I'm doing. you..you really don't have a clue. folks will always buy online, but if you check back with them..or read posts later from them...then you hear the issues. we hear them all the time. but..do what you will..its a free country. I'm not losing work on this...just giving you the benefit of my experience with this. best of luck

Remember the topic I did called something like, "I don't know how to.....?" Well, I should have added in the topic that I don't know how to work my camera except for the basic settings. lol. DH bought it for me, along with a tripod, zoom lens, wide lens, etc. It comes with a video that I never looked at. I've looked at the book but for the life of me I don't understand it, and when I take a picture it's a spur of the moment thing, not planned. I have never been able to take a picture at night unless it's the moon. I try to take pictures of Christmas lights at night, but the camera either won't "click" or the lights are awful. Honestly I'm about ready for a P&S camera like my last one. DH and I share an iphone and he uses the camera for work. I really don't need an iPhone so that doesn't bother me, but they do take great pictures.