Posted by containerted 6a (My Page) on Sat, Aug 17, 13 at 17:24 seysonn, you seem to be in a hurry. You know, I've always felt that life on this planet really celebrates its wonderful diversity. Planting only one or two seeds each year may be okay for some. I personally prefer a few more than that. Most years I germinate about 750 to 1000 or so..... *********************************** @containerted: I was perhaps talking about an average backyard gardener, like myself, Not big farmers and commercial growers here. Def, if you germinate 1000 seed, the you need perhaps diversify more. About celebrating life, I do that everyday when I get up from my bed.That is why I don't like to do seeds bookkeeping and inventory management. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by digdirt 6b-7a North AR (My Page) on Sat, Aug 17, 13 at 17:50 If all I wanted was a couple of seeds for the following year I wouldn't bother with all the work of seed saving. I'd just buy a packet of seeds and be set for 10 years or so. The whole purpose of saving seeds is preservation of the variety itself. __________________________ @ Dave, I partially answered you in the above response. Yes, you are right "The whole purpose of saving seeds is preservation of the variety itself. .. ". Or for me, it is something that I like.The other day I saw an organic heirloom tomato in the supermarket. Bought one and saved seed from it. Even with a packet of seeds I can cover a whole standard city lot with tomato plants. It is not the couple of bucks. My time and efforts are much valuable than that. FINALLY

Thanks for your thoughts here, this helps. I would love to save the $$$, and $2200 could go far with lots of extras around the house. Anyone out there think it would be foolish to buy an open-box appliance like this? Scrappy, the Viking definitely does not have timed cooking, but I think the Siemens does. I'm not 100% sure yet, though, because I can't find a manual for this model (it has already been discontinued and the material online so far is not very thorough.) Weedmeister, yes, it is "as is" and they say that if you have problems, you will go through the manufacturer warranty channels. I'd love to plug it in before I bought it, but I don't know how to do that with the 40 amp cords hanging off the back. (Remember that I am the girl intimidated by the touchpad!) I like the idea of the 11" hob for use with a large flat griddle. I have a toddler who eats pancakes and grilled cheese 100 times a week. Thanks again for your thoughts!

Clean every drain in your house using either vinegar, ammonia or a mild bleach mixture. Better yet the foam drain cleaners stick to the sides of the drains slowly breaking down what they are attracted to that you may not reach with just a sprayer after doing this once maintain with the previously mentioned. Another option is to use a mixture of baking soda and vinegar this will bubble the drains clean kind of fun to watch too. Do not forget your overflow drains I was amazed at how many bubbled out of one of my bathroom sinks. Your shower and bath overflow are important as well as under the rims of your toilets. The most important, the garbage disposer. I have been trying to make my husband understand the importance of the cat box being scooped daily he just rolls his eyes at me. I personally have developed allergies to the cats to the point that even vacuuming turns my face and neck all splotchy and irritated so I can not scoop the litter. I am tempted to buy those disposable surgical caps and dust mask and just do it myself. I did not realize how fast fly eggs can hatch until I read this. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/DOCUMENT_IG091 The diatomacious earth is naturally occurring in a lot of clay based cat litters already. I know someone who uses it all over there ranch property to control flies. She also uses it internally to kill parasites. Maybe the addition of baking soda would reduce the smell that attracts them. No doubt that being corn based is a possible attractant. Corn is also a good mold media as well which might further attract fungus gnats. Good Luck, Cindi

I don't particularly rely on a store to provide me with repair work except for the immediate delivery of a product. I have Bosch appliances and I would contact an authorized Bosch dealer in my area or KA. Similarly my Apple computers and other devices are serviced by Apple or Apple service people once they are out of warranty - I've bought them from numerous places including mail order back in 1991 when I bought my first Apple Performa :-). @Lizzie - Hi there! My kitchen is finally finished but construction continued around me until fairly recently as odd stuff would happen - my washer dryer was a bit too deep for the closet so that had to be reframed. My hood was the wrong size and so that delayed finishing kitchen for a while because they didn't want to install cabinets on either side until the hood was put in - and didn't want to finish the backsplash etc. etc. etc. I am still not completely finished as they have to come back for various items on the "punch" list but it's livable except for the boxes which are still in the living area as I was a pack rat and I am still slowly going through stuff - and I have furniture I can't use and nobody wants :-( Apologies for hijacking the thread by responding to Lizzie but here are photos of the kitchen and dining area. I am really happy with the way it turned out and spending time (SO MUCH TIME) on houzz asking questions and reading threads helped me so much in terms of getting the best result possible. I worked with a very knowledgable designer but thanks to houzz, there was stuff that I asked for which she had never heard of like my toe kick step stools. It truly is correct that having the luxury of living in a space gives one a better understanding of what doesn't work in the space and what would make it work better because almost everybody has certain constraints that impact the design of the kitchen. In my case, I was working with a small urban kitchen in a high rise - the kitchen is 8' x 10' so I needed to expand functional storage. @Lizzie - here are a few pictures of my finished kitchen. To the left of the cooktop I have a Bosch side opening wall oven with a microwave drawer below it and a VERY shallow tall cabinet with shelves. It is in front of a concrete support beam so it is about one can deep. This is the area behind my dining area. The tall cabinet to the left can be seen in the first photo. There is a door on the side and so the KA mixer and Cuisinart can just be slid out when I need it. The tall cabinet to the right is my broom closet. Excuse the mess on the counter as this was taken just when I moved in. This shows the tall cabinets in my dining area better in terms of the appliance storage and how it relates to the kitchen counters. I had the interiors painted blue but the shelves are clad with blue laminate and the sink cabinet is also clad in blue laminate for easier cleaning. This is the sink wall. The kitchen sink is disproportionately large (36" for the space) but because it's a ledge, it is super functional since the grad which you can see to the right of the sink gives me very functional "counter" space. I can store it on the bottom of the sink and I also got the cutting board. There is a sponge caddy to the extreme left which is a narrow removable shelf which is handy for sponges and other wet stuff. My KA refrigerator is on the right peeking through. It is counter depth but not integrated but I "cheated" the look by having my lower cabinets made slightly deeper than the standard 24"; having a panel on the left side and having the cabinet maker clad the sides that protrude with matching wood. With a counter depth, you need to have it protrude slightly so the hinges are clear of obstructions but since I had those parts clad in matching wood, it fools the eye. Not part of my kitchen ha ha but this is one half of the wall unit in my office/den area. Since I have an open concept space, it relates to the kitchen cabinetry in terms of color as well as having slight Art Deco style elements. This was my sad kitchen prior to the remodel. Again apologies for taking this thread in a direction completely unrelated to the original question.