Estimates for new w.cedar privacy fencing 70' backyard
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Comments (31)Sorry about the confusion. The "+" sign is a symbol representing the center of a plant. The circle represents its perimeter. In this case, it represents a small tree. The "." symbol is the same thing. In this case it represents a shrub form. The shapes in between the patio and house are generic plants ... there only to give the plan a vague sense that plants in that space are possible. When looking down from above (as in a PLAN) all individual plants are going to look like a circle with a center. The scalloped edge thing is a plant MASS .... where smaller plants are amassed together such that you do not see the individual, but only the perimeter of the group. Here, it's all generic and doesn't yet matter about the plants. I'm only showing them to say that "some plants can fit in this space." At this point, all you need to care about is the patio. The hardscape (patio) comes first. The plantings are subordinate and will comply with whatever way the patio ends up being. Since you don't want a deck, whatever steps you have will come fairly near the door. You'll still need a landing at the door (rather than immediately stepping down as that would be cheap looking and feeling, such as what one would expect to see in a mobile home situation) which is why I suggest make it and steps full width of the wall face. It will work and look much better than if you try to make it only one door width, as it is now. You only need 4 risers for the set of steps. You want a small patio. There is no need or reason to make a contrived or convoluted set of steps with this small, simple need. Keep them spacious and simple and you will have a nice finished package. Get cute or clever and you might like it for a while, but others will wonder why you bothered or the next owner may dislike it. Simple, well functioning steps will work best. You can glamourize them in the construction details, if that suits your taste. If you want something other than straightforward, it would be best if you sketch it out in plan view, and then I'd be happy to react to what you've proposed, giving the pros and cons. I think I mentioned before but did not see your answer .... you'll need to figure out the total square footage that you want for patio space. It doesn't need to be to the square inch. You just need to get into the ballpark on it. While I'm not working to scale -- just proportion -- I estimate the patio in the sketch to be about 170 s.f., which does not count the pure walking space in front of the steps. Including that, it might be around 200 s.f. Keep in mind that in order to do the same functions (cook and eat) requires a little more room outdoors than it does indoors. Outdoors, people move about faster and flail their arms more :-)....See MoreQuestion on new maple growing in the back yard. Multiple trunks?
Comments (12)Nigel, Multiple trunks on large specimen trees is never a good idea. I see so many yard trees left to themselves, with extra trunks coming out of the base and branches going in every direction. My BIL has a huge Silver maple with 7 trunks and now is worried about any one of them toppling over and crushing his house and looking at around $3000 to remove. Like ken said, you can do what ever you want but as far as structure, support and health of the tree goes, young specimen trees should be kept single trunked, single leader tree as long as it's feasibly. Your Red/Blue line photo is basically right and there's plenty of structure pruning of small trees tutorials on the www if you want to look them up. Your picture after that is some sort of Japanese maple. Certain ornamental trees can be multiple trunks and look better in that form so this is apples to oranges. I cringe when I see large trees like your last picture growing near a residence. Those multiple trunks aren't as well connected together as you might think, leaving crevasses where disease can fester and the trees can break apart during storms. And remember to plan on what trees you want growing in what location for your yard. Some trees can easily out grow their space in a short amount of time or look 'out of place' in their setting. Consider your neighbors also, what they think when your once little tree overhangs the fence infringing on their yard. You may not be able to grow much of anything under a large maple tree because of root issues is another consideration. Not to mention seeds sprouting up everywhere over the years. Also, all landscaping will eventually get to the end of it's practical usefulness and have to be redone at some point. Something else to keep in mind....See MoreHardscape for small backyard (8b)
Comments (28)I know it's been a while but I'm back for some final help (hopefully!). After getting many quotes and having long wait times we finally have someone coming out Wednesday to do another walk thru before things begin. We have been busy prepping, weeding and leveling the space. We are using poured concrete and decided to do a rectanglar shape versus curved lines, below is an aprox layout. Final dilema are those dang trash, recycle and yard waste bins. They will not fit under the deck. My idea was to line all three up going S to N as seen in below drawing and then using some sort of privacy screening which would allow for less hardscape and some more planting space. My husband prefers to line them up along the fence going E to W and have more hardscape to pull them out. I am not sure how we would screen them though and be able to pull them out. I'll draw husband's preferred layout of receptacles in green. I know this seems like a small thing but I figure there is probably a simple solution? I've included some pictures of the space in question. And yes I know we still need to prune that Camelia :)...See MoreLos Angeles Backyard Makeover - WWYD?
Comments (23)Alfred, I have not read through all of your thread, but from my perspective, it seems like the tile is ok. Have you looked into having it professionally cleaned? A “green” type of cleaning maybe, if possible - I’m sure something like this should be available in CA. Then just do the pavers and maybe some edge plantings in unpaved area, and put up a gazebo. You could start with, or just permanently use, a portable gazebo - as I show in pic in my first comment. I would really not get jackhammers, etc. and try to do this yourself. If you want to make a major change in the future, I would recommend just saving up and hiring professionals. You will save yourself the wear and tear and probably get better results that way. I really think you can work with your tile as it is. If you want to change/vary the look, in some areas you could place some outdoor rugs....See Moreaidan_m
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