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Comments (3)Wasted money, IMHO. Ozone is a great oxidizer. Most undesired organics that come into contact with it are rendered either inert or dead. That being said, it can ONLY augment some of what chlorine does. It is useless against algae and any biologicals that are stuck to the walls. It is only effective near the point of injection and a short distance there after. Chlorine will do the same thing, just in some cases slower because of the concentrations used. In many cases, chlorine is faster. Chlorine is still needed at the same level in the pool. Ozone doesn't last long enough to leave a residual in the pool. It can't be tested for. Ozone only works when the pump is on. A properly chlorinated pool has enough chlorine to keep sanitizing the water when the pump is off. Ozone systems need periodic servicing. Bulbs, hoses, valves, all need periodic replacement. This is on top of the initial and additional cost of adding them. Just my $0.02 worth. Scott...See MoreOzone Generators
Comments (6)I'm guessing your ozone output is inadequate. If it were sufficient, it would be oxidizng and there would be little demand on the chlorine. It only lasts about 20 minutes in the water and that is why you need an alternative sanitizer residual. Your sanitizer demand may be exceeding your sanitizer. Check the conditioner level and ozone output. FC= free chlorine. Chlorine that stands ready to kill. CC= combined chlorine. Chlorine used up and combined with ammonia, etc. CC is what gives the chlorine odor and irritation. Odor and eye irritation is not too much chlorine. It is inadequate amounts. Wipe it out with a dose that will deliver 10x the amount of CC....See MoreSWCG...Ozonator...Mineral Cartridge...help this all make sense!
Comments (3)Ozonators and UV are being confused here tresw. True ozone is produced by passing air (oxygen) across UV but from that point it is injected into the water versus a UV disinfection unit allows the pool water to pass by it partially disinfecting the water. Ozone is made from Oxygen or O2, which is converted through electricity to Ozone or O3. Ozone is a much more powerful oxidant than chlorine. However, the "shelf life" of Ozone is limited. It must be manufactured and used on-site. This is done through Ozone Generators which convert Oxygen in the air into Ozone. As well, Ozone is considered a "short-term" disinfectant and chlorine is considered a "long-term" disinfectant. Chlorine is also an entrenched technology. It has been widely used in North America and was first adopted at the turn of the century. It is still the reigning champion of disinfection and has many supporters in the chemical and swimming pool industries. Many people would argue that the cost of equipment required to supply the adequate germicidal properties and the requirements for it to operate far outways its benefit. However many users have benefited from ozone with a minimal or less sanitizer....See MoreAnyone have experience with ozone or ionizer?
Comments (30)barco, I finally got thru to your link - it was worth the wait. I'm wondering - how come you're sold on ozone rather than UV? Seems like a combo SWG/UV might be better? Also, I thought you were talking before about SWG/ozone combined but now you seem to be just ozone? Would you mind sharing your thinking that got you to this point? (I agree with you about the metals, btw. To hype them as if they are benign is irresponsible. Copper is the most common one - The standard American diet already has an overbalance of copper & the symptoms are there -- and if you've ever bought copper to treat plant disease like fireblight, the warnings about not letting it get into the water supply make you want to just forget about it) dlzc, I'm sorry for your difficulties. I looked back over the thread trying to figure out what was making you so antagonistic & I guess it was my swipe at your M.O. following your dismissal of my "scare story". It sounded like an unwarranted sneer with nothing to back it up so I figured you must be pitching something. I was not sobbing in your beer, but trying to explain to you that I have no agenda other than my family's health. I apologize for whatever misunderstanding occurred - I just don't have the time or energy for this. lindamarie, I hope this hasn't messed up your thread. It sounds like we are asking the same questions. I do not have a pool yet, but am planning on a build probably at the end of next year. (And we're in the process of setting up a generic Intex pool so that we can get a better feel for the chemistry & make sure we want to have a permanent pool) My younger sister (31yo) is about to undergo an operation to remove a grapefruit size cyst from her abdomen - looks benign so far, thankfully. She swam competitively during high school. All of the pools in her school district were indoors & chlorinated. I can't help but wonder, you know? The devil you don't know can be worse than the devil you do know so we're trying to find the path of least risk - known or potential. Haven't been able to find much outside of the EPA here in the US so I'm trying to get a look at what Europe & Australia have been doing since they have apparently been doing a lot more with the alternative sanitizers in their pools. One point that keeps getting mentioned consistently is to minimize the organic matter that enters the pool as that is what oxidizes into DBP's - so showering before entering the pool will actually minimize the chemicals & toxicity. Someone needs to explain that in some way that kids can understand because when I was a kid, I hated those pool showers (they were always so cold) and couldn't for the life of me figure out why you had to get wet to get into the pool, LOL!...See Morefighting_irish
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