Sounds like oregon grape (Berberis aquifolium). I'm in Ohio and it grows well here. This site has a good picture and description: www.treknature.com/gallery/photo10824.htm

We bought the Friedrich for our sonâÂÂs room. Thankfully, he sleeps like a log. We found the Friedrich to be really loud, even louder than the portable SPT that we have in our bedroom (which isnâÂÂt quiet either). And the biggest problem with Friedrich is the fan is so loud at any setting (even the lowest one). The other problem with the Friedrich is that it is a bear. It is very heavy and difficult to maneuver. Our friends like their LG, and weâÂÂve heard good things about the Sharp units.

Thank you all for the info. I had googled it, and we tried different things. Then we rebooted and now all is running smoothly. I think Norton anti virus was doing something to add to the problem. I hate when that happens. Everything was so slow, it reminded me of dial up days.

Thank you for telling me what I know should have happened long ago. My sister and brother-in-law are both lawyers.We haven't wanted to upset Diane right now because of her health.But, we are going to ask Bob to help us get him out of here.Like I said, I don't want them to take them, I just want to know how to get him out.When Ken was in the hospital back in March because of taking to many pain pills, I asked the nurse case worker how I could get him out. She told me that because he was a relative and that I had let him move in, the only way to get him out was to take him to court. That doesn't seem right, and because of mine and Jim's health issues, I didn't go further.You asked me if he had mental or physical issues that would make him encapable to take care of himself. He somehow graduated from HS, has held jobs, only ones that Jim or my Dad got for him, and is not so much in pain from his back that he can't work. Sears let him go because he told them that he could only come back to work if he could work for two hours and be able to sit for 20 minutes when he needed to. The disability that he is getting is from insurance that he is payin #179. a month. It is not Government disability.As far as mental, he is really a filthy person.He doesn't shower, my children came over and tore up the carpet in his room, and painted his room purple, what he wanted. And his room is filthy already.I put his microwave and toaster oven on the porch because it is filthy and I don't want it in my house.Shortly after he moved in,I found bugs in the house so made him pay for an exterminator. He pays that every month.Sorry for venting, but that is about all I have done since he has been making our life even more miserable lately. He told me he is perfectly happy here, isn't leaving, and I can't make him leave. New Years resolution. He will leave here. We have looked into HUD houses, but they do inspections and you have to keep the place clean. So, if he doesn't and once he is out, he is not coming back. My Jim use to be a locksmith and this will be one happy job for him Thanks again, for listening.