Pesky, I totally agree about the quality of our animal products. It doesn't stop with them though. Grains are said to also not be what our ancestors ate, not good at all these days, even eliminate. Fruits and vegetables have had a lot of their taste and nutrition bred out of them in favor of long shelf life and other more marketable qualities. But I agree, the hormones, antibiotics, living conditions are wretched -- at least lower your intake of the bad stuff. It's just shameful what has happened to our food. But they probably didn't realize it at the time. What really gets me is these natural/organic companies that advertise healthy foods but load them with things like cane sugar. I lump Whole Foods into that group. Soy and corn are other spoiled and contaminated food sources that turn up in so many processed things. I read all labels and try not to buy any of those -- unless I'm desperate for something to eat! Grass-fed beef and organic chicken is easily accessible here, as well as eggs, dairy and other products. At Whole Foods their meats do not have antibiotics or hormones and pasture fed is available (maybe not all types of meat). But gads, that organic cheese I was looking at, the only one available, was $32 per pound. Ain't gonna happen, lol. But I don't eat cheese or dairy often. Organic chicken and grass fed beef is expensive, running about $8 pound for both as I recall -- that would be chicken breast and ground beef. A lot when you can get the regular chicken for something like $3. I have read the GF beef is as healthy as fish. Sure hope, but it unfortunately doesn't have all the flavor grain fed does. So sometimes I just want a disgustingly unhealthy burger! This post was edited by snookums2 on Wed, Nov 20, 13 at 21:18

Thanks :) But I knew the translation....it's just that I find it rather irritating when people ask for help and it takes me (and others) 2-3 times as long to figure out what they are saying! I never got the feeling that English was this person's 2nd language. It just doesn't seem that way. It seems like it's a hoax - this poster will go from saying something like: "I m jus gona raise him as if its my baby...n im sure il do everythin to keep him healthy...n wid al our luv n care.." And then will say: "This is absolutely my last comment on this...I am not going to give my puppy away...I just said that I would do it in case I see any starts to suffer and before he creates a bond so that it is easy for him to move on...not get him to a stage where he is a total goner". That sounds like 2 different people. This is a hoax.

This year, my BIL was diagnosed with severe allergies to pork,beef and dairy. This has made the family holiday gatherings rather tricky. Almost everything I make has some kind of dairy in it. Even the turkey has tons of butter. Or had anyway. My sister always says she will bring special versions of stuff just for him,but never does,citing her large family as a reason that she doesn't have time,and asks me to accommodate at the last minute. I don't mind making alternative versions of my recipes in his case, only because I know he is miserable with his new restrictions,and prior to his medical problems was very laid back and would eat anything. My sister is more demanding than he is about it. He says that he will eat what he can no big deal,she wants an alternate version of everything in case he wants it. That doesn't happen. But I do make sure there are at least 2 proteins and 3 or 4 sides that meet his restrictions,but mostly they are recipes that meet them without any modification,such as potato salad or shrimp. As for vegans and vegetarians who are such by choice not medical need,while I respect their commitment and try to provide something for them,I don't worry to much about it. I'm not going to provide separate grills, I'll put it a the part of the grill away from the meat. I'm not going to make separate versions of everything,nor will I force non vegans or vegetarians to have a meat or animal product free meal to make one or two people comfortable. Normally,I get very irate when someone brings a dish to a meal or partyI am cooking for. But in the case of a special diet,whether by necessity or choice,I happily accept any outside dishes to help supplement my menu. I never host in my own home. It's usually at either my mother's house or my sister's. I usually just show up and make what I'm asked to make, but I do draw the line at being told HOW to cook it.

@gsciencechick you should update us! Are you still following this program? Do you do two meals a day? I know we had some type diet thread and I mentioned that I was kind of doing IF but unknown to me. I do not like to eat early in the morning. I most often eat around 11:00 ish and will either do breakfast or lunch foods, whatever I am in the mood for. I rarely have caffeine, but I do like a hot drink in the mornings if I'm having breakfast type food. I usually don't eat again until dinner, although many days I will have something mid-afternoon, usually an apple or nuts, or sugar-free cocoa (during cold weather), etc. Once I started hearing so much about IF, I became more intentional. I try to eat between 11:00 am - 7:00 pm. Right now I'm really working on getting in more water. I have not lost any weight recently, but I have not gained, even during the pandemic.