Welcome to Garden Web as I see you just signed up today. Interesting first post and it's hard to tell if your serious or not or even a adult- I suggest you contact your vet to find out the information your seeking...

Surely this is a troll?
If not, my first question is why do you want kittens knowing how many are euthanized every day at the shelters.

Posted by annz (My Page) on Wed, Feb 7, 07 at 16:55

Surely this is a troll?
If not, my first question is why do you want kittens knowing how many are euthanized every day at the shelters.

Annz that was my very first thought that is why I didn't take the bait.

Actually I already have all homes figured out for them... I'm not stupid thanks... I really appreciate when people are rude though... I just wanted some help thats why I joined... I'm getting my boy cat neutered on Monday to prevent further litters but I wanted my cat to be able to experience having her own kittens. She will also be spayed after her kittens are weaned(sp?). We plan on keeping one of them and we have planned out homes for the kittens once they arrive. Its been thoroughly thought out.

Yeh, like the starving and sick 8-week-old kitten that I found out in a field two days ago.

Probably came from someone who "just wanted one litter." Left to fend for herself - how can a kitten so young survive on her own?

I feel very lucky that she has a good appetite and a good spirit even though her eyes and nose are full of discharge.

vicky

Hi there, I don't think anyone was rude. You posted in all caps and your message was very controversial and inflammatory. It looked like a troll to me too.

Your cat doesn't need to 'experience having her own kittens.' She needs a healthy happy home, just like her kittens will, and just like the thousands of cats and kittens in shelters do. Some would call your behaviour irresponsible and thoughtless, but no one said that to you did they?

someone should

so i will

Not trying to be rude, but you stated "you have it all planned out" How could this be when your asking a very basic question? Before one makes a decison to breed a cat you should have researched all this prior to even deciding to breed. Best of luck and hopefully all goes well.

Geminisky2005, posting in all caps is called SCREAMING online. It can be taken aggressively. Your punctuation and grammar leave something to be desired and you are telling, not asking people to give you the "411". Seems like a child's posting to me as well. Of course it's also terrible to breed just because you feel like it when there are MILLIONS of homeless pets around!

Cats don't need to experience giving birth. In fact , they are healthier if they are neutered younger rather than after a litter..More likely to have reproductive cancers..It is totally irresponsible to "let" your cat have kittens. If your friends want kittens, let them rescue some from death at your local Humane shelter.

I was just wondering how could you have it "all figured out" when you wont know how many kittens will be born.What if more are born then you expected? Then what do you do with those that you havent planned on finding a home?

And I just want to say in defense of the cap.letters though,that I often find myself straining to read such small print. Not everyone is familar with cap. letters "screaming" at someone.
I love this forum,but think it would be easier if you could change your font so that it's easier to read.

I have a co-worker who also wants his cat to have kittens - so his children can experience the live birth. I have talked to him till I'm blue in the face - given him literature, offered to get him an already pregnant cat from where I volunteer so they could foster it and experience the birth... nothing works. So far he hasn't mated her yet so I'm still hopeful.

People like this are exactly the reason why millions of cats are euthanized every year.

I have a co-worker who also wants his cat to have kittens - so his children can experience the live birth

Share, Suggest he get his wife pregnant and the kids can experience the miracle of birth that way.

ok guys, old dummy here. What is 411? If it's unprintable e-mail me.
thanks
vickie

Means "information"... like when you call 411 for the phone number of the local pizza delivery place. People don't normally speak like that unless they are being terse. Don't feel bad for not knowing... there are many things I found out were "common knowledge" that I had no clue about as well!

"experience the miracle of birth"

Rent a video.

Please get that cat spayed.

Thanks vacuumfreak.
vickie

while i appreciate everyone's concern... i've disscussed it with my vet and she says that the decision i've made is perfectly fine... also i didnt mean to come off as screaming... i didnt mean to use caps. my apology to everyone... and I guess i'll delete myself from this forum since noone is supportive i didnt ask if anyone thought i should go through with it i just asked for the info but my vet has already informed me that what i'm doing is nothing wrong at all... thanks for your opinions

I really can't believe I just read that post above from geminsky. Of course your vet said it was fine - you will most likely take the kittens to have their first round of shots at your vet - more $$ for them. And please, don't give us the "well nobody is supportive so I will leave" line. How old are you??? In this day and age mating your cat "just so she can have the experience" or really for any another reason, is STUPID, and quite frankly you must be an idiot. Don't care if that sounds rude. It is meant to be. I just get fed up at all of the people out there that think they have a "right" to do what ever they want. I can't believe I actually have to explain this - but cats don't have the ability to think rationally like humans, and your cat has no idea what it is or is not missing with birth. And let me tell you after having two kids, one with out any type of epidural or other medicine (not by choice) that giving birth is NOT an enjoyable experience. And then to have 5-8 kittens sucking on you for 8 weeks - again not fun. Give your cat a break for the love of pete. And go to a shelter and ask how many cats/kittens are euthanized every week. Even if you have homes for all the cats - if those people want cats/kittens so badly they can go to the shelter and get one. Your cat having kittens in that case is actually preventing other kittens from being adopted. People like geminisky p*ss me off to no end.

Thank you for saying what I was thinking, laneym.
And geminisky2005, it is perfectly acceptable to capitalize the letter "I" when used as a pronoun.

May I say something about the caps thing without getting jumped or offending anyone ? I once posted in all caps and everyone just came out of the gardenweb woodwork telling me what a rude person I was. I apologized and explained that I had recently had a stroke at 48 and typing was extremly hard ... especially using caps, but I would next time use all small letters. Then I was afraid people would deem me stupid or a kid . Anyway, I got a lot of apology`s and people talked about how they never thought about a medical reason, bad eyesight etc.. I was in no way meaning to yell or scream. I think poeple should be a little more understanding.. it`s just typing.. And I can type pretty good now , spelling still sucks but did before to!

poobug, had to respond to your post. I've had the same problem. Before the stroke i was champion scrabble player in the family. Now some days i recognise the spelling of some words but most days i don't. Am much better in other areas than i was but spelling is not improving much. Am so sorry you're having this problem. Every one in general has been very understanding with me here on GW and esp here on "pets forum"
Sorry to cut in on thread.
vickie

I wonder if you guys respond to dog breeders the same way?

I am by no means condoning the action of making more of what already is too much with out homes.

But I just wanted to know.

And instead of yelling at this poster, the approach of rationalizing (or trying to) might have had a greater effect than a inflammatory response. Some people just won't get it but they might listen better if you take a calm approach.

Yeah, they respond to those who want to breed dogs at home the same way.

Wow, I think I'm going to be sick. I just came home from a 12 hour shift at an emergency clinic. When I left they were working on a cat having her first litter who had produced 2 stillborn kittens, and then was in labor for aprox 30 hours before being brought in with a final dead kitten lodged in her pelvis for a c-section and spay to the tune of minimum $1000. I'm suprised your vet was so supportive, lots of vets are against breeding 'cause they see so many problems associated with it and there are just so many out there.

I would die to see my cat going through what this kitty was going through. I'm not trying to be mean, it's just so awful to see the results of breeding sometimes.

We're probably preaching to the choir by now, since Gemini's probably gone elsewhere, but just in case you're still checking in, please check out these statistics. (Yes, I know about the 3 kinds of lies...lies. dam lies, and statistics, but this is still eye opening if you weren't aware.) Your female cat, and her kittens, could be responsible for bringing over 400,000 more cats into the world in the next 7 years. Do you know of 400,000 homes for all these cats?

Sally, the "mother" of 6 rescued, once homeless cats

Here is a link that might be useful: animal overpopulation stats

Geminisky - It's not too late to decide to get your cat spayed, now that you've been so fortunate to be educated. If you want to experience the birth of kittens, the pounds will be full with pregnant cats very soon. Wouldn't it be really exciting and rewarding to foster a mother cat and her kittens? Plus, if you decided to adopt, you'll get a spaying discount!

She's long gone...

Its sad when we try to talk to people like this for their own good, and yet they back away convinced we are against them and dont understand when in fact we do.

They are WWWAAAYYY too many cats in this world, your cat dosent nead to have a litter. They are animals they do not desire kits, sex and lust yes, love their kits after they are born yes, but do not desire them as would humans after they grow up then mom probably wont care about them anymore. If you spay her she will be happyier and a better pet, she wont have heat cycles she wont have cancer. Its good that you plan on spaying mom and nuetering dad but still its dangerous for her to have a litter, How old is she? How old is the father? A cat can have babies or make babies at 4 to 5 months. Please get her spayed, you will be saving yourself money, plus if you volnteer at a shelter and foster a preg queen you still will be able to get kittens and the costs will be for free or reduced.