Stupidity in action...

17 years ago

I took this a couple of days before we left Minnesota. The winter there has been extremely mild, the ice unsafe to even walk on. And yet some people just don't care.

This is someone's fish house sinking through the ice. At least two of them have sank/sunk through on Pokegema Lake in Pine County, and the sheriff's dept. has barricaded the public access. My neighbor said the sheriff dept. had to do an ice rescue in front of our house, the deputies had to fasten themselves together.

Canon Digital Rebel XTi.

JoanMN/FL

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sierra_z2b
17 years ago
Oh that is to bad, that so many people don't think before things like this happen.

If I might add something about the photography. This pic looks blurry to me.....might be just my eyes. But if its not, I suggest using a tri-pod. The other option is IS lenses.

Keep clicking,
Sierra
solstice98
17 years ago
I was in Fargo ND for Christmas this year and it was 45 degrees every day. No snow. First non-white Christmas since 1957! I heard lots of people talking about how much they wished they could be in the ice houses but nobody was talking about doing it until the days got much colder.
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JoanMN
Original Author
17 years ago
Sierra, pic was taken w/a Canon 75-300mm IS USM lens.
rcnaylor
17 years ago
Definitely a picture that is worth a thousand words Joan. If that doesn't get through to folks thinking about getting out there, I don't know what would. I have never had the patience to be much of a fisherman. And, looks like the guy with that ice house didn't have enough either. Yikes!

Glad to hear no one has had their impatience cost anyone their lives.

After I posted my pictures on our last ice storm, a lady slid through a railroad warning arm onto the tracks. She and her child were able to get out in time, but a 20 year old passenger trying to save two other children in the car didn't. They got out on the icy roads to pick up some fast food. So sad.
Konrad___far_north
17 years ago
Cool shot!
Lesson learned I hope.
Here, the ice is very thick and save to drive on.
Konrad
juanital
17 years ago
Wow...That's too bad, but a good capture of what can happen...If you don't mind me asking...Do people push those fish houses out there?
doris_mi5
17 years ago
I know how stupid people can be when it comes to fishing. One year someone drove a van out onto the lake and it sunk. Cost them a fortune to haul it out besides fines from the DNR.
sierra_z2b
17 years ago
Sierra, pic was taken w/a Canon 75-300mm IS USM lens.

Hi, I thought of a couple other things....do you know what your speed was? Maybe it was to slow. Or perhaps you used auto focus and it didn't place the focus where you intended it to be.

All that aside, your photo tells a story, photo journalism at its best!

Keep clicking!
Sierra
JoanMN
Original Author
17 years ago
Here's the EXIf, Sierra.
File: - C:\Documents and Settings\Joan Soles\Desktop\MyPics\SinkingFishhouse640.jpg

Make - Canon
Model - Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
DateTime - 2006:12:27 12:08:54
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
ExifOffset - 193
ExposureTime - 1/250 seconds
FNumber - 5.60
ExposureProgram - Manual control
ISOSpeedRatings - 400
ExifVersion - 0221
DateTimeOriginal - 2006:12:14 23:17:15
DateTimeDigitized - 2006:12:14 23:17:15
ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/250 seconds
ApertureValue - F 5.60
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MeteringMode - Multi-segment
Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 300 mm
UserComment -
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 640
ExifImageHeight - 427
InteroperabilityOffset - 5639
FocalPlaneXResolution - 4433.30
FocalPlaneYResolution - 4453.61
FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Inch
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Manual
White Balance - Auto
SceneCaptureType - Standard

Maker Note (Vendor): -
Macro mode - Normal
Self timer - Off
Quality - Fine
Flash mode - Not fired
Sequence mode - Continous
Focus mode - One-Shot
Image size - Large
Easy shooting mode - Manual
Digital zoom - None
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - High , +3
ISO Value - 32767
Metering mode - Evaluative
Focus type - Auto
AF point selected -
Exposure mode - Manual
Focal length - 75 - 300 mm (1 mm)
Flash activity - Not fired
Flash details -
Focus mode 2 - Single
White Balance - Auto
Sequence number - 0
Flash bias - 0.00 EV
Subject Distance - 0
Image Type - Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
Firmware Version - Firmware 1.0.4
Owner Name - unknown
Camera Serial Number - 620365839
File number - 112 - 0480

Thumbnail: -
Compression - 6 (JPG)
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
JpegIFOffset - 5780
JpegIFByteCount - 3267
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited

Luckily, the local newspaper and tv station thought it was fine, as both used it.

Juanita, they pull them out with a car or pickup.
rcnaylor
17 years ago
Your mention that they pull those things out there with a vehicle reminds me of a web story I saw a few years ago. How legit it is I can't say, but the story goes that a couple of guys went out on a lake and were going to blow a hole in the ice illegally with a stick of dynamite to do some hunting. They light the dynamite, throw the stick... and the guys new bird dog thinks they want to play fetch. As the dog starts bringing it back to them, they start shooting in front of him to discourage him from fetching the dyno right to them. The dog gets a little confused and scared, so takes off to hide - under the guys new SUV.... Like you say, stupidity in action!
sierra_z2b
17 years ago
Hi Joan,

Yes often local news papers and news shows will take less than technically correct photos........that is why I said photo journalism at its best. It tells a story, you were in the right place at the right time, and able to provide a photo to them.

As a photographer though, I see more the technical side of photography.

It really does depend what and where the photos are going to be used.

Hope I didn't upset you, my intent was to help you improve your photography.

Sierra
JoanMN
Original Author
17 years ago
That's ok. I've taken a few pictures before. Check some out.

Here is a link that might be useful: My webshots pics
zitro_joe
17 years ago
The lady in the background considers herself a photographer too! I would say there is something technically wrong with her style. You?

I thought I would add this picture since the thread is correctly titled for it!

Good day!

Joe
rcnaylor
17 years ago
Hey Joe, the gal was clearly following following the instructions carefully: "Point and shoot"... no one ever said which direction to "shoot". Great picture.

And if I ever find myself with my trailer in a lake, I hope Joan is the one there to photograph it. She would be kind enough to leave my already red enough face out of the pic. :)
sierra_z2b
17 years ago
Good one zitro joe, LOL

But I am a professional photographer with over 20 years experience. I don't even own a point and shoot!!! Its not a matter of concidering. LOL!!!!

Sierra.....who things you guys are hilarious!!!
JoanMN
Original Author
17 years ago
I hope I am not having a problem of my new camera not making a tight connection with this lens, I have had the lens a few years and taken many, many bird shots with it.
zitro_joe
17 years ago
You are fine. The photo is compressed so much anyhow there is no way to make an honest critic of it. I see your focal length was 300mm and your shutter speed was 1/250, you usually want a shutter speed x2 of the focal length, that will eliminate any camera shake. I think you said you had OIS, if you think your pictures are soft give that a try next time. Peace!

Joe
sierra_z2b
17 years ago
Joan, if you have a tri-pod or mono-pod, use it when you are using longer focal lengths like 300, if at all possible. Thats the simplist solution. IMO IS is good, but its not perfect.

I wouldn't worry about the connection to your new camera, good lenses can last a life time without problems.

Compressed files can cause softness, but usually if you sharpen or sharpen edges it fixes the web versions.

I haven't had a chance to look through your pics, but I would love to when I have more time! :-)

Sierra
Konrad___far_north
17 years ago
Perhaps weather, cropping??
I'm in no means a Pro...but this is what went thru my head....
When shooting at far distances,..it looks likes in this pic, and weather doesn't cooperate, like dark cloudy wet miserable day, you will end up with a pic like this,.....and when it is cropped [not sure in this case] it makes it even worse.
Konrad

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