Hmmmm. I have been feeding my worms lots of bread ends I got from a cafe. Now I have lots of little black bugs that are very fast to hide when I opened the lids.Must be some kind of grain or flour bugs. Never heard about that gluten effect. Learned something new every day.

I actually was so intrigued with "Asian meatloaf", I looked up a recipe. I know you asked stinky, but here's another (while not tried and true, it's rated highly): Asian Pork Meatloaf with Red Wine-Mushroom Gravy Copyright, 2000, Ming Tsai, All Rights Reserved Prep Time: 15 min Cook Time: 1 hr 0 min Serves: 6 servings Ingredients ï¬ Canola oil, to cook ï¬ 1 tablespoon minced garlic ï¬ 1 tablespoon minced ginger ï¬ 1 tablespoon fermented black beans, rinsed and chopped ï¬ 3 carrots, peeled and 1/4-inch dice ï¬ 4 stalks celery, 1/4-inch dice ï¬ 2 onions, 1/4-inch dice ï¬ 1 zucchini, 1/4-inch dice ï¬ 1 tablespoon sambal ï¬ 1/2 cup hoisin sauce ï¬ 2 cups cooked long grain rice ï¬ 2 pounds ground pork ï¬ 4 eggs, lightly beaten ï¬ Salt and black pepper, to taste Red Wine-Mushroom Gravy: ï¬ 1 tablespoon minced garlic ï¬ 1 large onion, roughly chopped ï¬ 1 pound button mushrooms, sliced ï¬ 1 bottle dry red wine ï¬ 2 cups chicken stock ï¬ 2 tablespoons soy sauce ï¬ 2 tablespoons butter ï¬ Salt and black pepper, to taste Directions In a large saute pan coated with oil, add the garlic, ginger and black beans. Stir and season. Add carrots, celery, onions, zucchini and stir. Add sambal and hoisin and continue to stir. When the mixture is cooled, mix in the rice, pork and eggs. Season with salt and black pepper. (Test for seasoning by cooking a small piece in boiling water, a frying pan or even nuking it.) Spray a nonstick meatloaf pan and fill with mix. Bake in a preheated 350 degree oven for 45 to 60 minutes or until a knife/poker comes out clean. For the Red Wine Mushroom Gravy: In a saucepan coated with oil, caramelize the garlic, onions and mushrooms. Deglaze with red wine and reduce by 75 percent. Add the stock and soy sauce and reduce by 50 percent. Check for seasoning. Using a hand blender, puree the sauce and add the butter. Check again for seasoning. Keep warm. Plating: Sauce the plate completely then top off with a thick slab of meatloaf. Wine Suggestion: Rabbit Ridge. California Zinfandel, Barrel Cuvee, 1997

I see I was calling you "Linda" in that old thread. What's up with that, lol! All I can say is it must be the hormones! I copied it and saved it to my hard drive this time. I still have the dang bread crumbs sitting on the counter six months later!

That really does sound like a great dinner, Laurie, LOL, and all leftovers from the frig! Haven't made the torte yet, I have quite a few recipes bookmarked in this book that I'd like to make. Haven't gotten to any yet. She's a little wordy on a lot of the recipes, and I've made recipes from her other books that all turned out really well. Here's the apple torte recipe, let me know how it turns out! Looks good! Apple Torte with Bread Crumb and Hazelnut Crust (Torta Di Mele Di Carnia) Lidia Bastianich (Lidias Italy) Apples grow well in the Carnic Mountains, in the northern part of Friuli, and are used in many desserts. This delicious double-crusted tart reflects the deep-rooted frugality of cooks in this tough mountainous terrain. The crust is made with bread crumbs taken from stale bread, probably because of the scarcity of white flour and the time it takes to make a refined pastry dough. But the results, in the Carnic spirit, are delicious. Makes a 9-inch tart, serving 8 or more For the bread crumb crust: 1/2 cup hazelnuts, toasted 1 1/2 cups fine dry bread crumbs 6 tablespoons sugar 2 teaspoons freshly grated lemon zest 3/4 cup milk 6 tablespoons butter, plus a bit for the tart pan flour for rolling out the dough For the apple filling: 2 pounds (or a bit more) tart, firm apples such as Granny Smith 1/2 cup sugar, or more to taste 1 cup hard (fermented) apple cider or dry white wine Whipped cream or sour cream or ice cream or powdered sugar (optional) Recommended Equipment: A wide, heavy-bottomed 3- or 4-quart saucepan, with a cover A 9-inch tart pan with a removable bottom A pizza stone or oven tiles, if available To make the pastry dough, chop the toasted hazelnuts into small bits, about the size of barley or rice grains, using a chef's knife, or pulse in a food processor, in short bursts to avoid pulverizing. Mix the chopped nuts with the bread crumbs, sugar, and grated lemon zest in a big bowl. Heat the milk and butter in a small saucepan just until the butter melts. Pour over the dry mixture, and stir until evenly moistened. Let the very sticky dough sit in the bowl for about 15 minutes, so the liquids are absorbed by the crumbs. Scrape dough onto a large piece of plastic wrap, enclose it, and press into a disk. Refrigerate the dough for an hour or more, until it is quite firm. To make the filling, peel, core, and slice the apples; you should have 6 to 7 cups of slices. Spread them in the saucepan; pour the sugar and the cider or wine on top; cover the pan, and set it over medium heat. Cook covered for about 10 minutes, gently turning the apples every few minutes, as they wilt and release their juices. Uncover the pan; adjust the heat to keep the liquid perking and slowly reducing. Turn the slices over frequently but carefully, so they stay intact. When the liquid has all evaporated and the apples are soft and nicely glazed, turn off the heat and let the apples cool. When you're ready to form the pastry and bake, arrange a rack in the middle of the oven (covered with a baking stone or tiles, preferably) and heat it to 375°. Lightly butter the tart ring and removable metal bottom. Cut off a third of the chilled disk of dough for the top crust, and set it aside. On a well-floured surface, roll the remaining two-thirds of the dough to a 12-inch-diameter circle, almost 1/4 inch thick, more like a cookie dough than a pie crust. Flour the rolling pin and work surface as needed to prevent sticking. Lift the round and lay it, centered, on the tart pan. Press the dough down so it lines the pan bottom and sides, and trim the edges so there's an even 1/2 inch of dough over the rim of the tart ring, all around. Spread the cooled apple slices on the bottom crust, in an even layer. Roll out the smaller piece of dough into a 9-inch round, the same thickness as the first. Lay it loosely over the filling, and trim the outside edges to fit snugly inside the bottom crust, covering the apples like a lid. Fold the overlapping bottom crust over the top piece, and pinch and smooth the dough layers together, sealing the apples inside. Place the torta in the oven, and bake for an hour or longer, until the top crust is deep golden brown and the outer crust has separated slightly from the side ring. The top crust may crack open, and you should be able to see the apple filling bubbling inside. Set the pan on a wire rack to cool. When the torta has cooled and the crust has firmed up, remove the side ring. If you wish, use a long metal spatula to separate the bottom crust from the metal disk, and slide the torta onto a board or cake plate. Serve cut in wedges, warm with ice cream, or completely cool with powdered sugar and some kind of cream.