Using space from garage to build mudroom...what do you think?
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Comments (26)Same here with the frustration and depression to be moved in but not really "finished". And knowing that will actually take years since we did all the work ourselves and I'm totally burned out. And yet I've been doing this for a year now and I struggle to turn the "builder's brain" off. That being said, the SO proposed this spring when we moved in, so I've swapped "builder's brain" for "marriage planning" and suddenly I have a whole new hobby to keep me busy. I of course, feared that I was replacing one obsession with another and post-wedding would likely find myself doubly-depressed...only to realize that we're gung-ho to start our family so we're pretty much going to never stop and just be bored again in our lives. Which is kinda terrifying too....See MoreAnyone build a Sater Home? What do you think?
Comments (14)Hi floddedgutted, I don't know if you're still reading this thread, but I took another look at the plan linked above and it strikes me as very impractical for a family with children. For example, there is no front hall closet and most important no mudroom. When kids come inside from the back yard, it looks like they would go straight into the living/dining room. And there's lots of wasted space on the 2nd floor (that big gaping hole, and a sun porch off the laundry room?) I don't mean to pick apart this plan and you might have moved on anyway. But when you look at house plans (or existing homes) I would urge you to think about how you live your every day life... What's the path you'd have to take to get from the car to the kitchen with bags of groceries? What's the path from the front door to the kitchen (where guests always congregate)? Where do kids dump their shoes, jackets, and backpacks when they come in the door? After working in the yard, where will you come and take off your dirty shoes, etc? Maybe I'm biased, but with 2 kids my entire remodel was based on the fact that I wanted a mudroom and was tired of all the shoes, sports gear and backpacks landing in the front hall or the kitchen. I think in a previous post you mentioned you have 4 kids, so you'll have twice as much stuff!...See MorePlans back from architect...what do you think?
Comments (74)I think you may be missing some opportunities on your main level. Your current living room seems very disconnected from the rest of the house - its more like a formal parlor rather than a family gathering space. A passage from Christopher Alexander's "A Pattern of Language" describes what I'm seeing: "If a common area is located at the end of a corridor and people have to make a special, deliberate effort to go there, they are not likely to use it informally and spontaneously. Alternatively, if the circulation path cuts too deeply through the common area, the space will be too exposed, it will not be comfortable to linger there and settle down. The only balanced situation is the one where a common path, which people use every day, runs tangent to the common areas and is open to them in passing. Then people will be constantly passing the space; because the path is to one side, they are not forced to stop. If they want to, they can keep going. If they want to, they can stop for a moment, and see what's happening; if they want to, they can come right in and settle down." Maybe your goal is to keep the living room a quiet space - which is okay. However, in the sketch below you can see how the living room (and the fireplace/hearth) becomes the core of the house. Centering the living room also benefits other spaces- now you get a glimpse of the views to the northwest from the kitchen and the dining, and in the living room you get a bit of the early morning and midday light coming in from the east and south. With windows in the stairwell wrapping the fireplace and a pair of french doors on axis with the front door, you essentially have light coming in on all four sides of your living space. This arrangement would also be nice for entertaining - even though the kitchen and living are distinctive spaces, you can still hold a conversation with family or guests in the living room while you're preparing meals. Making the center of the house one room deep stretches the overall north/south footprint, but according to your site plan above, you have a decent amount of space on either side of your existing design until you reach the setbacks. Making the house narrower and longer will also help in arranging bedrooms upstairs. My only other comment would be about your wrap around porch. Aesthetically, especially on a corner lot, this is a nice touch. But you have to ask yourself, how much of that 50' porch are you actually going to use? Personally, I'd focus on a larger, non- wrap around porch that is deep enough to have a furniture arrangement that encourages conversation. It might be a bit too deep in the sketch. I suppose I should have posted back in "Anyone want to design my house?" but better late then never, right? Hope this helps!...See MoreWhat do you do with all the stuff you use but not often in garage?
Comments (24)I have this fantasy of installing a bookcase / shelves next to a doorway or opening, but placing them 3" or 4" away from the wall. And then slide big flat things BEHIND the shelves (that's why "next to a door," so there's room to slide them out). And maybe install ledges on the back side of those shelves to hold those flat things up off the ground, or maybe make it possible to store one of them higher up (double-deck). What made me think of that was this item from your list: 2 folding tables (when guests come over) Set some deep shelves (as deep as the folding chairs are wide) by the door to the house (if there is one, or any other door) far enough out from the wall to fit those tables, and then install one ledge low down on the back side of the shelves so you can slide one table in to rest on it, and another ledge above it to set the 2nd table on. You could install those big utility hooks I linked to above, or a 7" ladder hook, on the end of that bookcase to hang the 6 folding chairs on, some low and some high. I don't know how many folding chairs would fit in the 7" depth, but it would be one way to keep them from falling over, etc. And they'd be close by the door and easy to use. Not sure if all 6 would fit; you'd probably need 3 hooks, and I don't know how easy it would be to maneuver chairs off the top hook (Most are 38" high--so if you put the lowest set of hooks so the support is about 39 inches above the floor (not to lift so much as to keep them from falling over) and the next set 39" above that, then thelegs of the top set of chairs would be 78"/6.5' from the floor, so most people would be reaching over their head to get them--not so smart from a safety point of view, probably. If there are stairs, you could reach them more easily, maybe. Or experiment with hanging them upside down from the cross-brace, and that might let you control them better when taking them off. EDITED TO ADD: I just looked it up, and most steel folding chairs are 2" thick when folded, so 3 would fit on each hook. Here's a 7" ladder hook. Not so good for bikes because it doesn't have much of a front "lip" the way the one above does. But probably easier to get the chairs off it. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-5-16-in-x-7-3-4-in-Screw-In-Ladder-Hook-01219/202305568...See Morepatches123
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