Thanks! I'm kind of ambivalent about starting a thread on this.* But that's not why I posted them, I'm having tech issues. I sent these pics to my prospective builder, as jpegs in-line in an email, and they appear to him as large black blocks. When he clicks on them, nothing happens. But I can see them in my "sent" email, and when I click on them, they open in a new, larger window. And of course, all of you seem to see the pics just fine. So I don't know what's going on. I can't seem to receive any emails from him either, even though I receive other emails. I suspect my earthlink and his yahoo are having some sort of security issues with each other, but I'm still researching. * ETA: I'm not sure I'm up for a full-blown design feedback thread right now, although I surely appreciate the kind words very much. It takes a lot of energy, and at the moment all heck has suddenly broken out here at scone central. Can I say maybe later on that? And I've already promised to start another thread, although I can't remember what it was supposed to be about! Brain not work. Oooh, hang on, I just had a coherent thought for once! I'm going to send these jpegs to my DH at work, and see if he has the same problem the builder is having. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ETA: I just got an email from DH saying he thinks he's fixed it. Here's what he says, in case anyone runs into this issue: Your email problem should now be fixed. There was a configuration problem on your account – there was a forward to “loop”. My old yahoo accounts seem to have gone away so I can’t test by sending from one of those. I have also upgraded the amount of storage you get on the server so that there won’t be any problem even sending/receiving really big files. scone here. Hopefully that gets the job done. It's odd, though, because Houzz didn't have any problem with the size of these files. I have no idea what "forward to loop" means.

See if this works...

Jin, you'd be surprised how soon all the different roses will fall into place in your mind. You went from one rose to 100 in a very short period of time, and you haven't had the opportunity yet to have it all sink in. Having a good rose book which talks about the different classes of the old roses and the cultivars that are in each class is really helpful, especially if there are accompanying pictures.

Now to figure out how to size it. This one is weirdly flat.