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Happy Duggar news; not baby related.

14 years ago

Two older Duggar sons help save the life of a young girl.

Here is a link that might be useful: News video clip

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lilliepad
14 years ago
That's great!
I guess those "uneducated" Duggar kids are worth something after all.LOL
mimi_boo
14 years ago
Uncalled for Lilliepad.
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gadgets
14 years ago
Thanks for sharing this. I hope the little girl will be totally 100% okay.

Shirley
glenda_al
14 years ago
ditto, mimi_boo
country_bumpkin_al
14 years ago
That's great!!

I'm not sure how Lillie meant her post...but I took it that she was taking a stab at the people that are always talking crap about the Duggers THINK they're uneducated. Less face it..everyone has an opinion on these people and 9 times out of 10 it's a negative opinion!
sue_va
14 years ago
I agree, Bump. I read lilliepad's remark as being very positive and complimentary, and playing down what some people feel about the Duggars. Hard to express some things in the written word.

Sue
lydia1959
14 years ago
I too agree with CB and Sue. I think Lilliepad was giving a ribbing to the peeps who are always putting the Duggars down.

Nice story!! Thanks for sharing it.
ruthieg__tx
14 years ago
I got it too Lillipad...Good that the guys were close and could do something to help.
FlamingO in AR
14 years ago
I think there's always room for sarcasm, my favorite form of humor.... ;)

I'm glad they were able to help. The 6 year old was in the front seat and wasn't strapped in? Those parents were terribly careless with their precious child. I'm not sure they should moved her on their own, but it was pretty cold here that day, that might have factored into it.
liz
14 years ago
what a wonderful thing those boys did...
vicki_lv
14 years ago
I think Lilliepad was being humorous with her comment. There are many people that consider the Duggars uneducated. And she did put quotes around the word, so that is how I took it...humorous.

It is a wonderful thing these boys did.
suzieque
14 years ago
Lilliepad's comment was very clear to me. She put quotes around the word, indicating to me that she was quoting what some people believe. Regardless of what I or anyone thinks of the Duggars, I hope that nobody looks for anything negative to say about what those young men did.
sandy9743
14 years ago
What a great thing for these young men to do but I exspect nothing less of them. The values they have been taught will be with them always. Would buy a car off Josh in A HEARTBEAT...saNDY
mrsmarv
14 years ago
I agree with those who took Lilliepad's comment as being positive rather than negative. The context of her post seemed pretty obvious, at least to me ;o)
majaco
14 years ago
Yep, I took it as positive,too.I have seen people rip them.
country_bumpkin_al
14 years ago
I'm still in awe that "anyone" took that wrong! It's so obvious where the comment was directed!
lilliepad
14 years ago
It was mean't just as almost everyone took it.Sorry if anyone was offended but I think it is offensive to put people down just because they don't fit into the "normal" family mold.I am also offended that there are so many people who think kids who are home schooled are somehow inferior to kids that go to public school.I have a grandson that is home schooled and he is very smart and well adjusted.Anyway,I'm sorry for causing such a stir over something that was mean't to be positive.
country_bumpkin_al
14 years ago
It's OK Lillie! I don't think you owe anyone an apology! YOU shouldn't feel bad! YOU didn't cause a "stir"! Some people have nothing better to do than put down people they don't know and probably never will know (The Duggers).And, there are people that just love to "correct" others and when the truth comes out..they're no where around!

I've been around home-schooled kids and schooled kids! Hands down..I'd rather be around the HOME schooled kids!!
lilliepad
14 years ago
"I've been around home-schooled kids and schooled kids! Hands down..I'd rather be around the HOME schooled kids!!"
Ditto CB! My grandson(and not just because he's mine)is more mature and all around better "adjusted" than any of his friends that go to public school.He wants to go to public school next year,(hopefully he will change his mind before then)and is being tested for grade placement.So far he has tested way ahead of his grade level in almost all subjects and I would consider him just an "average" kid.I realize that a lot depends on what kids are taught at home(morals,manners,etc.) but there is just so much going on in public schools that it scares me.
mimi_boo
14 years ago
"And, there are people that just love to "correct" others and when the truth comes out..they're no where around!"

Hmmm. "Truth" was posted at 12:21. It's now 1:32. And I'm no where around. Good Lord.

This is a public formum and EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion. Lillipad posted her view. Nuff said.

Get a grip people.
suzieque
14 years ago
But mimi - you misread lillipad's view. That's Ok and can be understandable when reading printed words. But I don't know what that has to do with opinions and everyone being entitled to their own. I think an "oops, sorry lillipad, I misunderstood what you wrote" post would be nice.
ritamay91710
14 years ago
I agree. wow people.......
dilly_dally
14 years ago
An amazing story of rescue! Thanks for sharing. The one Duggar boy learned CPR by being a fire volunteer.

This was a very lucky turn of events for the little girl who apparently had a chicken McNugget lodged in her throat. I am appalled that the girl was not wearing a seat belt. I wonder if the driver will be charged? I don't know the seat belt laws in other states but where I am this could mean jail time.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b165465_dynamic_duggar_duo_rescue.html

Here is a link that might be useful: Rescue
iowagirl2006
14 years ago
I keep reading the thread title as:

Happy Duggar news; baby not related

What! LOL!

After reading it closely I realized my mistake, LOL!!

Does anyone else ever read a title wrong and think "What the WHAT?"

Good for those boys too!!
dilly_dally
14 years ago
LOL. I read it that way at first too. At first I thought there was some DNA testing done and a scandal or story of hospital mishap came out in the news. The first reaction I had was 'poor Anna' this won't bode well. Then I thought "Oh, this is just going to be one of those *jokes*." And I almost did not click it on.

There is not much letter space to put in long titles here like on other boards. Sometimes the brevity makes for confusing titles.

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