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red pine floor getting refinished need some help
Comments (1)You can stain with an oil based stain and then apply a waterborne polyurethane. This will give you the look you're after with much less VOC (volatile organic content) load, although most floor stains have a high VOC content by themselves. I have stained heart pine with Bona DriFast stain and then topcoated with Bona Traffic Satin and have gotten very attractive results. You can consider the Waterlox system, although if odor is your prime concern, then research thre pros and cons of using that. Hard wax oil, of which I have no experience using, may be another option for you....See Moretung oil finish on pine - any thoughts on maintenance?
Comments (45)I have to say in regards to Waterlox: it is a wonderful finish when first applied. For the record I have laid yellow/heart pine and used poly to finish, I laid 900sq' of eastern white pine and covered with Waterlox. We built our own home 4 years ago and used waterlox original on the entire 900sq' of the downstairs. It gave is a yellow orange tint which is eactly what we wanted. It did darken over the 3 years we lived there as when we moved last week and lifted the rugs there was a very noticable difference in coloration. Application was horrible. I used a quality paint respirator in january. Since it was cold I had the windows closed. Eyes burned so I used goggles. When I would take the respirator off to readjust etc the fumes almost knocked me out. After the 4 coats over 2 days I shut up the house (opened windows at timed intervals to allow new air in). About 3 weeks later we moved in and could still smell the waterlox. A few days before we sold our house I did some touchup work since our yellow lab left several claw marks down below the finish. I simply put a little waterlox on a rag and applied by hand the 1'x1' area. You could smell it upstairs with the door closed. We had to open windows in january. Waterlox finish very much resembles poly. It never chipped on us but had the same type of appearance with the scratches. Repairs. Don't let anyone fool you. If you have a dog scratch your floor and it is deep you now have fresh unstained, unweathered wood showing. It will look very white next to the tinted weathered finish. You can apply new waterlox but it will not tint the scratches to match the finished side adjacent to it. It will reseal it and tint it a bit but you are going to see the scratches. Not as bad a poly, but you will see them clearly. Fast forward. Economy goes bad, decide to sell our home and purchase a cheaper fixer upper and try to pocket a little cash in case of job loss. The new home has pergo, yuck. I have already found a dealer for red pine this time. (should be a bit harder than the eastern white pine we had in the last home.) Plan on installing red pine in the entire house less the 2 bathrooms. Equates to about 2000sq'. The big debate. Tongue oil or more waterlox. We did lover the finish of the Waterlox and always got great compliments on the floor from guests. I don't really want to evict my family(young child) from the home for 7-10 days while the new finish gases off while drying. I have heard mixed reviews on the citrus solvent as being almost as bad for you as mineral spirits. I loved the finish of the waterlox and it did bead up nicely and cleaned well. I have never used the tongue oil and hope I am not making a mistake by taking that route. We love the matte finish of the waterlox along with the slippery feel to it. Does the tongue oil leave a smooth slippery texture also or do you feel the wood grain more? I have used a marine based tongue oil on a boat I built and that was not something I would want to walk on every day....See MoreThis antique is taking all our money to fix.need inspiration
Comments (15)I hear you. We purchased our home in 2004, and haven't had a summer to enjoy to ourselves since. Our house needed everything from new roof (tear-off), new trim, garage/house was the eye sore on the block, landscaping (or lack thereof) was atrocious, all dog-peed carpet removed and hardwood was restored.....we didn't even have three prong outlets! Seems trivial yes, but it took a good part of our weekend to swap them all out. It's all the little things that are so time consuming, but we're finally to the point now where we are just beginning to decorate, as sad as that sounds. What drives me crazy the most is this...when we updated our roof, we added a rough-in for a master bath....It's still a rough in, considering ALL the other work we've done in the interim, not to mention the money, so when people come over and ask, "when are you getting the bathroom done" (in a tone that suggests it should have already been done), it's irritating at times...as if! Gosh, there are weekends that we do nothing but work on the house from dawn to dusk. We also remodeled our kitchen...totally gutted it top to bottom..beautiful now, but let me tell you we didn't have a kitchen for almost nine months!! I had to store all of our food in the dining room on a fold out picnic table...it was pathetic, but I have to laugh now looking back. Not to mention that eating out constantly can take it's toll not just on your tummy but also on your pocketbook...but we get nothing but compliments now...a big "WOW" from visitors, which makes it worthwhile. Then of course the water heater needs to be replaced, and then the furnace, and all the other unexpected's on the way...but you'll get through. But...if I could go back, I'd have focused some of that energy on things we'd have time to enjoy first...like the landscaping, adding a patio, etc. We only did that just this past summer, and I wish we'd done it sooner because it's relaxing in itself just to be able to take a moment to hang out in the yard. Sometimes being in the house too much tends to take its toll, so if I have any regrets that would be the first. I think you are doing the right thing by focusing on the bare bones first. We did the same....we did all the major repairs...things we couldn't stand to live with. The important thing is you will have a nice quality home, which will only add to the value and the character. I think every homeowner looks back at some point and thinks, I wish I had done this instead of this...(such as your new windows vs. lack of insulation dilemma), but you live and you learn..it's all a part of home ownership. Sometimes it helps to create a list of what needs to be done and prioritize it based on both need and practicality. Yeah, we could have gotten our bathroom done this past year, but I preferred to focus on the landscaping because that's something we'd actually use and enjoy as an outlet from the monotony of housework. Being outside in the summer helps too - winter months will give you plenty of time to focus on indoor projects. It's a long road, but in the end, you'll LOVE your home and the fact that you've made it your own, and you'll look back on all your sweat equity and see that it's all worth it. Family members kept bugging us about decorating and painting right from the get-go, but the fact is, when you are doing a ton of remodeling, depending on your projects, you may have so much dust in your house it's not worth decorating first in my opinion. The important thing is to do things at your own pace, and focus on what you value first. That's the best advice I can give from my own experience. When you look at your dwindling bank account, realize that it will pay itself off...someday....you just have to be patient. One other thing that helps, I keep a catalog of before, during, and after pictures. When I look at what it was before compared to what it is now, I feel MUCH better. :) Good luck. Can't wait to see your pics....See MoreRecovered wide pine floors/refinish
Comments (8)I, too, have wide old board (early, old growth white pine) floors - mine were set in when the house was built in the 1840s. But every year in the heating season they contract, opening a gap between the boards that one can loose a chopstick in. Then they swell up, reaching their maximum dimension in mid-September. So I don't think age really affects dimensional stability, particularly across the board width. What would keep them more stable would be constant temps and, probably more importantly, steady humidity, which I can not supply in a wood heated, un-airconditioned house with a full cellar located in the humid NE. However, the boards can shrink or swell, and it doesn't concern me in the least. Mine are thicker (1 3/16") than yours will be after planing, but I have reluctantly abandoned the idea of installing radiant (hydonic) heating in the floor because wood that thick will not be a very efficient transfer of heat and the heat necessary to make them warm up would be hard on them, and probably on my pocketbook as well. In my case this is exagerated because my building is so energy-inefficient and my climate so severe that my heat load would be considerable even without the issue of the thickness of the wood. The only good thing to be said for my floor in relation to radiant heating (which I crave) is that I have full unhindered access to the undersides of the boards, making retro-fitting very easy. That said I once owned a house with modern strip red oak flooring and radiant floor heating on a slab. Heat transeferred just fine, but some of the seams did open up every year. Nothing more than cosmetic issue, in my opinion, but it did raise questions at resale because one of the reasons the boards might shrink is due to a leak in the system, which was not the case. I happened to find a buyer who saw it both closed, open and then closed again, so she believed me when I said it was a normal thing not the result of a recent trouble. Other would-be purchasers who saw it in its gap-y state at the end of the heating season were more sceptical. What do you plan to use for subflooring under your wide boards? I don't meant to discourage you from using the boards, just sound a note of caution about using thick, old growth boards as radiant transfers. Unless they are severely cupped I would think about laying them without planing. How are they edged; would you have to have T&G put on them? Many of the boards in my barns and attics are apparently identical to my flooring, but usually not as nice. I have used them to make small patches or repairs, though. One other thing has to do with the varying widths. It can be a bear if you have too much variation and need to match up with an exact dimension to span the floor. Depending on the length of your boards and the width of the room, you may have an easier, or more frustrating time fitting them to the space. In my house the boards are so long they go under the partitions and span most of the rooms. Good luck, your floor sounds great and I am a big believer in re-using parts. Molly~...See MoreUser
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