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Does debt scare you?

grittymitts
16 years ago

I just wondered if anyone else is as fearful of debt as I am?

It is so puzzling to me why couples take on huge mortgages knowing that if one loses a job, has to be off work for extended period of time, etc. the dream may collapse.

We won't buy anything we're not absolutely certain we can pay for the day the bill arrives. Foolish by some standards I know, but we've always paid cash for our cars; same for our home. (MANY years ago my hand shook so badly I could hardly sign mortgage papers on my first house- the thought of being $10,000 in debt with a $64. a month payment was terrifying.)

Suzi

Comments (46)

  • Happy_Go_Lucky_Gayle
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Oh yes....my 2001 Explorer has been paid off for a while now. Of course there is nothing wrong with it. I just know that I am going to need a new car sometime in the future. I hate the thought of car payments. I hope I can save enough to pay cash.

    I only use one credit card and that is scarey enough.

    My Daughter scares me to death everytime she buys something new on credit. I keep warning her to be careful.

    Gayle

  • teresava
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I wouldn't say it scares me, since we owe 200K something on our mortgage. Debt allowed us to enjoy our dream of homeownership. I guess it doesn't "scare" me since I know we can make the monthly payments (plus all our other utility bills) without worry. Our house was a bit over our budget, but we reasoned it out before we signed the papers.

    I also don't get people that charge their credit cards to the limit for stuff they don't even need! I wouldn't be able to enjoy the stereo/TV/computer whatever knowing that the bills we going to start coming in!! Too much guilt and stress!

    We also paid cash for our last car (2005), sure the savings account took a big hit, but we still had enough leftover for any possible emergencies. I worry about people that don't have ANY savings built up or have to live paycheck to paycheck.

    I was brought up that you save in the good times, in case the bad times come. If the bad times never come, then hey you're still doing good! In our house, we pay all the bills first, then contribute to DD's college fund, our retirement accounts etc. Then we can have a little fun-we do go out to eat, buy stuff for the house etc, but in just in moderation!

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    It is so puzzling to me why couples take on huge mortgages knowing that if one loses a job, has to be off work for extended period of time, etc. the dream may collapse.
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    Some folks don't think beyond the next paycheck, as they just live from one paycheck to the next...always broke the day b4 payday.

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  • jenni_ca
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  • paula_pa
    16 years ago
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    Well it doesn't feel good. I don't mind our mortgage since we bought a modest house before the market took off and prices went up. I was slightly queasy about a new car payment but again, it's modest by most people's standards - not an SUV and I drove my last car (my first car ever) 11 years and 178K miles.

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    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Indy_Anna
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • azzalea
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • susan_on
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • azzalea
    16 years ago
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  • kim_okla
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Cherryfizz
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I'm terrified of debt. I didn't have any debt until my Mom died and I had to take the cash value out on my life insurance to pay for what she owed.

    When I started taking care of my Mom she had over $20,000 in credit card debt - Visa and Sears. The bank gave her the card when she was in the early stages of Alzheimers and she used it mostly to buy cartons of cigarettes for my herself, my brother an his wife and to take his family out for dinner every few days. She used the Sears card to buy things for my sister and her kids and I think a microwave for our house. After I became POA it took me over 6 years using her money to pay off that debt and I wasn't working because I was taking care of her and using up my savings. I focused on paying off the high interest debt and didn't pay the city taxes because the interest rate was lower. Just before she died I was able to start making payments on the taxes but when she died there was still a balance which my life insurance paid for.

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  • sue_va
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I've never had enough of it to be scared! Always lived frugally, by necessity, more so than by design.

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    I just don't understand the more! more! life style that so many people feel is important.

    Sue

  • talley_sue_nyc
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    do you really think that anybody who HAS a lot of debt is going to come on here and tell you?

    After I became POA it took me over 6 years using her money to pay off that debt

    You should have consulted a real attorney, who would have told you that this unsecured debt could never be collected and would vanish into the ether when she died. Perhaps that would have seemed irresponsible to you, but....they sent it to her, right?

  • gneegirl
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Scared out of my wits - but I was out of my mind when I did the kitchen redo. I have paid off everything at least 3 time and felt so in control afterwards. I'll get there again. It's so difficult living on a cash basis, but I'm all for it. There was a time when I could almost do it. But I did have one cc to use for emergencies. Thanks to so much inspriation and a weak willpower, I'm CRAZY again. It is pretty scary but at least I'm aware and know how to get back to normal. I love my kitchn though! Hopefully if I have to sell, someone else will love it too - LOL. Once I get out of this hole I'm not getting back in - too old now to use traditional methods like working have to death. Plus I want to enjoy my life without worrying about the bank!

    If you haven't starte on that trek, DON'T; it's not worth it. Life is so much better without that debt!!

  • Cherryfizz
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Talley, she was still alive which was why I was using her money. I paid off her credit card debt using "her" money4 years before she died. I was no longer a POA after she died. We lived on my savings so I could get rid of her debt.

    I still had her back city taxes on the rental house to pay off after she died and because I did inherit that house I had to pay them. If there wasn't a cocodil(sp) in her will regarding that house I would have sold it in a minute.

    I keep getting credit card applications in the mail and they just get shredded.

    Anne

  • wildchild
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I hate being in debt so much I avoided buying a new car for years.

    I still have to work at convincing myself that there is good debt and bad debt. That is what most financial advisors would say.

    A roof over one's head and a reliable vehicle is healthy debt. Credit card debt is not.

  • vannie
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Being in debt wouldn't scare me b/c I know we have the resources to pay it off, but, we're not in debt and paid cash for this house 7 yrs. ago. When we were in debt I hated the thought of all the interest we were paying. We are in our early 60s and I would think by this age you should have your ducks in a row and not be in debt. I see my children, all in their 30s in debt but they figure they're going to enjoy life now w/ everything they want.

  • LorifromUtah
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No it doesn't.
    Debt is a tremendous tax deduction in our business.
    It allows us to expand and be more productive.
    We borrow for something on the ranch (equipments, trucks, more cows and sometimes operating capital) but it's paid off before we borrow more.

    I don't have a credit card but use my checkcard instead.

    Lori

  • mary_c_gw
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I'm not afraid of "good" debt.

    Our house is paid off, but we needed to get new siding. There was an interest-free loan for 12 months - heck, yes, I financed it! My money staying in my accounts earning for me for longer.

    My new car (the last one died at 190,000 miles) is also financed at 0% interest for 24 months. It just makes more sense for me to keep my money as long as possible.

    I could have paid cash for both these major purchases, but they are good debts, at least for me. I'm earning interest on my money, and they aren't charging me any interest.

    I also financed a very expensive sewing/embroidery machine for my business. It wasn't an interest-free transaction, but it was on sale, and the model was being discontinued. The newer model would have cost at least $1K more. I paid it off in 3 months with a finance charge of about $50 - well worth it.

    Random fear of any debt at all seems counter-productive.

  • heather_on
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes debt does scare me which is why we don't owe any money accept to MasterCard which we pay off each month. I never want to be in the position of owing a whole lot of money ever again.

  • golfergrrl
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No. My philosophy is to die broke. I buy what I want.
    I have to fear of using credit cards.

  • sheilajoyce_gw
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No, only debt I cannot pay or a loan with huge interest.

    I do remember being so afraid of our first mortgage--30 years of debt to pay off $30,000!!!! What a bargain today!

  • drewsmaga
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Having lived the early years with "which bill are we not going to pay this month?" living debt-free is peace of mind. We live below our means (my truck is 11 yrs. old, etc.) and with the 8th unemployment in 20 yrs., we can ride it out (the 9 mo. one was rough, ditto the 4 mos. one when the kids were 7-17.) No debt. Living WAYYYY below our means (no IPODS, 15 yr. old tv, etc.) and even with the unemployment, we're still on track to having 1M before retirement -- oh, and the house is nice, older, but 2000 sf in a GREAT neighborhood. . . . We coulda payed cash for a 4500 new house and had money left over for a Beamer and 6 mo. vacation around the world :-)

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    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • rosemaryt
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • czech_chick
    16 years ago
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  • marilyn_c
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes, it scares me. We don't have any bills except the lights and phone and insurance. My husband had work that was seasonal for years. He is getting ready to start a new job where he will be making much more money and working full time.
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  • kframe19
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No, it doesn't scare me. Runaway debt scares me.

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    Even credit card debt CAN be healthy debt if it's used properly. Most people don't, can't, or won't use credit cards properly, so it's generally seen as not healthy debt.

    However, if you have a low credit score, you can do a LOT of good for yourself with a credit card.

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    "Uh, Mr. Kframe, there's only $22,000 here..."

    "Darn, I brought the wrong wallet!"

    That's not going to be happening any time soon, though.

  • western_pa_luann
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Debt does not scare me at all!

    I use it to my advantage.
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    I now make monthly payments at 0% for the Mountaineer, while my lump sum payment is in a CD making 5.1%.

  • joyfulguy
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    Then I may be willing to borrow to make more investments, as market stays low.

    Loan costs 6.25% (most recent quote).

    Deductible, at marginal tax rate 25%, or $1.56, reduces my after-tax cost to $4.69.

    Estimated dividend at 3%, $3.00, at low tax rate, about $2.50 after-tax residue, takes my effective cost down to $2.19.

    If I borrowed $10,000. and let it run for 10 years, paying only interest as I went along, when I went in to repay, I'd have to pay precisely $10,000. That $10,000. would buy much less than when I borrowed it - I gained from inflation, which is running at, what 2.5% ... some low-income people say that their costs are rising faster than that!

    That takes my effective after-tax cost to zero!

    While I'm borrowing at no net after-tax cost, I must find $6.25 to pay the interest. The stock that I bought with the loan is paying $3.00 now, $2.50, after-tax.

    I use the $3.00 from this stock, plus $3.25 of dividends on previously-bought stock (both paid quarterly), to pay the interest monthly.

    After tax time, the $2.50 of after-tax dividend on this stock, plus $2.65 or so of after-tax dividend on the previously owned stock, is more than enough to pay the $4.69 of after-tax cost of the loan.

    As the markets recover I may use freshly generated cash to invest, but as the market advances farther, I usually use newly saved money to pay down the principal of the loan along with the interest, when the market gets high again.

    However, if I were younger and felt it wiser to let that loan run, using freshly saved money for more investment, the stocks may decline a bit, but usually they resist cutting their dividend, if at all possible, so it will continue to assist with paying the interest.

    Suppose the price of the stock at $100.00, earlier paying about 3% ($3.00, about $2.50 after-tax) goes up 50% to $150.00, still paying 3%, or $4.50, (about $3.25 after-tax), that leaves only about $1.50 after-tax dividend value that I need to take from the previously owned stock.

    If the stock that I bought with the loan goes up by about 75%, with dividend likewise, it'll pay the full amount of after-tax loan interest cost ... so the loan is self-financing, cash-flow-wise, without counting the allowance for the credit related to inflation.

    Used wisely, loans for investment can be helpful - but one needs always to be sure that they can handle the situation if markets go very sour ... they can do so, believe me!!

    I am here explaining how the situation may work, not suggesting that you should use it.

    I would certainly not want you having fitful sleep due to having reverses in the stock market!

    It's easier for farmers or business people to stomach, for they're used to irregular income and wide variations in prices that they get for their products, in addition to variations (usually increases) in costs of production. Most employed people are not.

    Good wishes for learning various facets of how to make your income and assets work more effectively - for you and yours.

    ole joyful

  • cork2win
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    We don't have any debt other than mortgages (on several properties) but the mortgage on the house we're building scares the crap out of me, basically because it means I'm locked into keeping a job I really don't like, and praying I don't get laid off, which could happen at any time in today's world.

  • FlamingO in AR
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It would if we had any, simply because we lived on a fairly fixed income. My little part-time job only keeps us in gasoline and play money. If I was to rack up a bunch of credit card debt, I'd be lying in bed wondering which investment I'd have to whittle down to pay for it, and that's just not acceptable.

  • ninos
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Debt scares me. I have always been really good with money and i never had any debt. When DH and i met he was over $70,000 in debt. My girlfriend joked with him when we got married. She told him that it must be love because im not in it for the money.LOL! DH had 2 car payments and around $40,000 in student loans. I was not use to any debt. Much less $70,000. We got the cars paid off in 2-3 years. The student loan took much longer. While DH was overseas several years ago i began making $2,000 payments. I lived on nothing and i paid it off while he was gone. We have been living debt free(other then our morgage) for 3 years now. Now to tackle the morgage!

  • lulie___wayne
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Debt doesn't scare me, but I hate paying interest! I'd rather pay cash for everything I buy or at least be able to pay it off at the end of the month. Credit card companines hate people like me who pay their credit card off totally each month. They make most of their money on late fees and penalties from people who can't pay and they keep offering credit cards to people who can't pay because of that reason. If I can't pay cash for it or pay it off in a month, I don't buy it. The only exception is our house and my car we bought last March and a few others through the years. I hate car notes!!! I hate interest!!!
    Lulie

  • joyfulguy
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Ninos,

    Did

    he

    say

    thanks??

    ole joyful

  • joyfulguy
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Ninos,

    I don't know whether your husband's wife has a diamond on her hand ...

    ... but he has a diamond by his side.

    No - that's too impersonal.

    He has a princess by his side.

    No, let's not be elitist.

    Just one shrewd, loyal, disciplined help-meet!

    Have a week that satisfies a couple of your desires.

    ole joyful

  • ninos
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    OJ,You made my day! Thanks!!

  • angelaid
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes! I bought a car yesterday. First time I've had a car payment for 15 years. And I was up sick all night worrying about whether I made the right decision. Did I get a good deal? Did I get ripped off?

  • Kathsgrdn
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No, doesn't scare me, but annoys me that I'm paying out all this interest. I paid off a ton of debt last year and am going to finish it off this year (except for my house). I was thinking of giving my old car to my son when it was paid off in July and buying myself a new one. But, then I thought of all that money I'd be shelling out every month for years. I decided not to do it and am just going to save for a used car for him, and he will have to help pay for it.

    I've been listening to Dave Ramsey every day I'm off for reinforcement. LOL!

  • nan_nc
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Debt in reasonable amounts doesn't "scare" me, as long as I know the means to pay it off are there. At this stage of our lives, we are avoiding debt wherever possible, as we are relying on SS and some occasional income from past skills. The house is paid for, to all intents and purposes, so that surely helps. HOWEVER, DH went for a colonoscopy 18 months ago and ended up with six bypasses and two aneurysm repairs. Nearly $200,000 in bills..not counting all the specialists and side-bar doctors who want their pound of flesh. We are real good negotiators, so had many of the bills reduced substantially, but we will be making payments for the rest of our lives. No more "optional" (think credit cards, new cars, etc.) debt for us!

  • susanjf_gw
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    we had cc debt, until about 5 years ago..my ds1 was always twitting me about it...so when we refinanced the house to a lower rate, paid almost it all off, transferred the rest to one of those interest free "come-on's crds" and paid them all off...now i just use my bank card for everything.

    what we're working on now is savings and getting ready for retirement. dh doesn't know, but the car will be paid off in 3 months, yea! that money will be paid into a savings acct, for another one, down the line....

    our home loan is 15 year fixed...

  • kittiemom
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    We don't like it. We did spend more on this house than I would've liked, but we're really enjoying it & the neighborhood. It's actually only an average priced home for this area, but still high to me. We moved from a small town where real estate prices are low to a place where they're very high. We do make sure to structure everything so we can live off of DH's salary. We don't have any car payments. We did splurge a little during Christmas (first time we've ever splurged like that for each other). We'll pay that off in a couple of months & won't add anything else to the credit cards until we do. We do sometimes take advantage of no-interest offers & pay off things like furniture, electronics, & appliances off over several months. But we always make sure to make large enough payments so it's actually paid off before the promotion ends so we don't get hit with the deferred interest.

  • Eliza_ann_ca
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes,It scares the bejeebers outa me.
    Last year we bought our retirement home before we sold our present house,and I was a total wreck.The deal was just too good to pass up,and it will be paid for this summer,but we are both fairly frugal and this was totally out of our comfort zone.
    I've since come to terms with it,but spent many a sleepless night thinking we shouldn't have bought it.
    Now,a year later,I'm sure glad we did,but the thought of owing money makes me nervous.
    I remember when we bought our first house,our mortage was 144.00 a month (LOL),and I was so scared...thought for sure we were going to end up in"the poor house"as my mom use to say.