Full overlay kitchen cabinets hinge swing

10 years ago

Hi all I am brand new to GW and would love some input. I am in the process of a full kitchen Reno and have decided to go with custom cabinets. I have my heart set on full overlay shaker but the cabinet company says there is a restricted swing to the doors if I choose this style ( which my dh is not ok with) could you please let me know if full overlay framed cabinets can have a hinge with full swing?? Thank you so much!!

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andreak100

10 years ago

I think it's worth a trip to the cabinet maker's showroom so that you can take a look at how far they will open if that's a big concern to you.

Truth be told, in my previous kitchen, the doors didn't open as far as what the new ones do and that was one (and probably about the ONLY!) issue that I really never had with them. It was what it was and it wasn't a functional problem for me.

When doors open, they have a bit of "give" with the hinges, so it's not as if they are going to break off if they are reasonably swung open. You find that most of the time when people open a cabinet, they don't "guide" the door opening the full way - they open it a bit and allow inertia to take over with the rest of the opening process.

I think that everyone in the family will quickly get used to how far the cabinets open. There's a learning curve any time you get something new because it works/reacts a little differently than what you're used to, bit it in cabinets, doors, windows, appliances, washers, dryers, cars, etc.

Solve the problem with how far the bases open by getting mostly drawers...it's what most of us do because it's much more functional overall.

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ajc71
10 years ago
Not sure I am following by full swing, if you are doing frameless you can go up to a 170 degree hinge...but I have found the standard to be 120 degree

The only reason you would have to go less then that is if you are using a thick door (1"+) then you are restricted to 95 degrees due to the thick door hinge that will be required
User
10 years ago
120ÃÂ° should be sufficient for accessing any cabinet except a corner bifold that uses a 170ÃÂ°. It opens enough that the door (or the hardware) will bang the wall and damage it if it's in a 90ÃÂ° corner, even if you put in a 3" filler. If you are looking to do something like an entertainment cabinet, that gets specialty hinges, but you don't need them on all of your kitchen cabinets.

I think some clarification is needed to better answer the question.
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suzanne_sl
10 years ago
But the OP's question was about the hinge for full overlay on a framed cabinet.
debrak2008
10 years ago
I have full overlay shaker framed cabinets. Based on the photo above my doors open slightly less than that. No issues at all with access to the cabinets.
CEFreeman
10 years ago
Once it's open and you can access everything in the cabinet, what's the point of what you're calling a full swing? I have some full overlay Shaker cabinets and they open wide enough for me to get everything in and out without restriction. I would be frustrated if they had a "full swing" and swung open to whack the door next to it with the knob.

Take your DH to a showroom to look at cabinets and the available hinges.
Wait until he gets into the drawers vs. reach-in base cabinets. He'll forget about this (silly) thing.
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10 years ago
120ÃÂ° is 120ÃÂ°. How the hinge attaches to the cabinets isn't important to the discussion. Only the degree of opening.
mommy22qtz
Original Author
10 years ago
Thank you so much for your comments. As I understand what your saying ( and clarifying my question) standard hinges on doors with a framed, full overlay would be 120 degrees? The reason I ask is I have children and I fear they will try to open the cabinets beyond their capability and eventually break them? Is it possible , other than perhaps a corner unit where you would not want more, to have a swing beyond 120 degrees?
User
10 years ago
That's a once and done and won't sit down for a week issue, not a cabinet construction issue. Billions of people have kids that don't regularly swing on cabinet doors and break them. Yours can join their ranks instead of the hellion ones.
mommy22qtz
Original Author
10 years ago
Wow. Um I'm not talking about swinging on the doors. We have cabinets that fully open right now and it is what we are all used to. I am not looking for parenting advice. I am interested in whether there are hinges that open wider than 120 degrees for a full overlay door. But thanks anyway for your input Hollysprings.
debrak2008
10 years ago
Do you current cabinet doors hit the other doors?

Just show your kids and anyone else in your family how the doors work. I had to show everyone how to close the doors and drawer with soft close and how to close the corner easy reach cabinets.

I can't imagine anyone pushing hard against the door after it hits the full open position.
jakuvall
10 years ago
For standard face frame, full overlay applications Blum offers 105, 107, 110 degree; grass offers 108

To use a wider (170) opening you have to use a euro style hinge- simply using that on a face frame is NOT recommended.
You would have to notch the face frame to accommodate the hinge- which would be mounted to the side of the cabinet instead of to the face frame.
OR switch to frameless
OR change the overlay and the hinge.
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Joseph Corlett, LLC
10 years ago
"That's a once and done and won't sit down for a week issue, not a cabinet construction issue. Billions of people have kids that don't regularly swing on cabinet doors and break them. Yours can join their ranks instead of the hellion ones."

hollysprings:

You give so much good advice so often that I don't even bore readers with my agreeing with it constantly, but this time I must make an exception. Well said. Again.
ILoveRed
10 years ago
My bathroom cabinets are full overlay, framed. I have no idea if they are Blum. It is a Brookhaven hinge.

They open not quite as far as LWO's picture, but certainly far enough for any kitchen application.

I can't imagine that you can't use full overlay, framed cabinets in your kitchen.
jakuvall
10 years ago
red lovwers pick is of a euro style hinge with the framed notched to accept it. Standard for BH

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