Michelle: I think you are confused with, the Pizza dough and the Braided Dough The one you used for Sin Bunns has a slightly sweet taste. Braided ! Everyone has their own way to do this, which is better. But! I like to cook and bake using easier ways, long as the end results are the same. I've used this recipe since I got out of the Army, a very long time ago and converted it from Army Baking (Large amounts)to Home Baking. It wasn't easy going from 4 Quarts to 4 cups , etc. But I worked it out. I got the results that I wanted and I'm passing it on to everyone. Here is the recipe: Luigis - - - Braided, Plaited Bread or Dough for Cinnamon Buns Etc. 2 cups of milk, (warm ) - - Sometimes I sub Powdered Milk 1 1/3 cup of Sugar 3 large eggs- beaten (save ½ egg w. a little milk for basting ) 1 teasp.+ of Vanilla - - ½ cup + of oil - - ½ teasp. Salt 2 packs of Fleischmans Active dry yeast AP Flour - 3 cups to start ( probably about 6 total enough to knead into a soft ball that doesnt stick to your hands. I now substitute a cup of WW Flour. I makes it more tender. Stir the yeast in a 1/3 cup of warm water w. ½ spoon of sugar, to test it for raising. In a large mixing bowl, or (KA mixer) place the warm the milk ( not hot ) add the sugar ,vanilla , salt & eggs Beat until the sugar is dissolved and add the Yeast and mix well. Add 1 cup of WW flour and 3 cups of AP flour and mix with mixer a few minutes. Add flour until you make a soft Ball of dough that doesnt stick to your hands. Dont make it stiff , try to keep it a "soft dough." On the Work Top, Sprinkle some flour under the ball and Knead it until smooth. Place it in a large bowl, Rub some oil on top. Cover with a damp towel and place in a warm spot until double. I usually turn my oven on for a few minutes to warm and shut it. Place a pan of hot water on the bottom shelf. Then place the dough bowl in the oven to rise. When doubled deflate and put it out of the bowl onto a floured worktop. Punch it down and knead the dough again. Then cut into 2 pieces ( 2 loaves ). Divide each piece into 3. Roll each of these 3 pieces into the shape of a sweet potato ( about 12 in long ). With the basting ( egg ) mixture and wet the tips of the 3 pieces and stick them together at one end . Then spread the other end the shape of an arrow While keeping the stuck ends down and away from you , twist each piece clockwise about 8 times and lay them down so you can Platt or Braid them and stick the other ends together There are other ways to Braid ( 6 Strands ) but I take the fast easy way to do things. Place the 2 shaped loaves on lightly oiled cookie tins, or loaf pans. Preheat the oven to 400 deg. Spray some Pam on the loaves or brush with oil. This will keep them from drying while raising. When doubled in size (about 20 min.) place in the oven , top shelf and bake until slightly tan. Baste them with the egg mix and rotate them back into the oven and ( Turn temperature down to 325 deg.) Baste again when they are a dark tan. Cook till a rich brown, mahogany color. Take them out of the pans onto a rack to cool. Control yourself !!!! Let them cool !!! This sounds like a lot to do but it is easy and should take only 10 minutes to mix and shape. The most time is in the waiting for the dough to rise and for the bread to cool . But it do look great !!! & Professional This dough can also be used for Cinnamon Buns . I use it for Bagels too. I like the Hardly Noticeable, sweet taste.

Iris: Here is the Sauce Recipe. Pizza Sauce and Spaghetti Sauce ( Gravy ) Some choices of tomatoes are Contadina , Red Pack , Hunts , All Red, = Tutto Rosso, Chento Pizza Sauce Start with 1 large can of Crushed Tomatoes and I can of Tomatoe Puree. I use Powdered Spices now, and get the same results 1 level teaspoon Garlic pwd. (add more later to taste) 1 tablespn. of onion powder. 1 teasp. Salt. 3 teasp. Sugar ( add more if it tastes too acidy ). An Italian pinch of pwd.cloves. 3/4 teasp. Oregano ( or to taste ) it is strong. 1 teaspoon of Parsley, 1/2 teasp. basil. 1/4 teasp. black pepper. ½ teaspoon + of ( Chicken flavored Soup Base ) Large handful of Parmasan Cheese, when done , after 1/2 hour. Continue for Spaghetti Sauce This recipe can be used for Spagetti Sauce ( maybe you would want to cut down on the Oregano ) also just add a can of Tomatoe Paste and water to thin a little , if it is too thick it will burn easily. It will thicken as it cooks. ½ cup of fine chopped Onion. And 3 bay leaves . Don't forget the Chicken flavored Soup Base. Add uncooked Meatballs, Sausage and Chicken Thighs, when you start cooking. (cook at least 1 ½ to 2 hours ) Take the chicken out when it is done. ( About 1 hour ) Add the Parmesan Cheese after the sauce is cooked & stir ALSO !!! season to your own taste. Add more or less of what you like. I make about 8 Quarts of Spaghetti Sauce at one time and put into different size containers. I use this for Pizza, because I like the flavor. LOU

Ann: Sorry this Thread has gone away from what you asked. Here is one Recipe I found for your Beef Ribs. LOU STANDING RIB ROAST 1 well-marbled standing rib roast (small end) sea salt cracked black pepper garlic powder whole garlic cloves lean salt pork or pancetta meat thermometer aluminum foil Beef has thirteen ribs, and usually seven of those are contained in the "rib" cut. The chuck contains the first five ribs, while the thirteenth rib is usually left on the short rib at the packing plant. The primal rib cut normally contains the sixth through the twelfth rib. Those ribs closest in proximity to the short loin are the most tender, while the ones nearest the chuck are less so. When purchasing a standing rib roast, ask your butcher for the smaller end of the rib portion. The ribs should be trimmed so that they are no more than 7-8 inches in length. The back strap, chine bone and feather bones should be removed. This makes for easier carving at the table. Allow for 2 portions per rib. A four rib roast should provide an adequate serving for eight people. Avoid using anything less than a 3 rib portion as a roast unless you prefer a well done roast. Smaller cuts are best used as steaks. Season the roast liberally with coarse sea salt and freshly cracked black pepper and garlic powder several hours in advance (or overnight) to allow the spices to permeate the outer layer. Keep refrigerated until one hour before use, then leave roast at room temperature for 60 minutes prior to roasting. If a crisp crust is desired, sear the roast in a preheated 450°F oven for 20-25 minutes, then reduce the heat. The most accurate way to judge if the roast is done is to use an instant read thermometer. If not using a thermometer, allow approximately 15 minutes per pound for rare, 18-20 for medium, or 25 minutes for a well done roast. An alternate method of roasting which causes less shrinkage in the total weight is to roast the meat at 325°F throughout the entire cooking time, in which case, allow 20 minutes per pound for rare, 25 for medium, or 30 minutes for a well done roast. Doneness may also be judged by pressing on the roast; the firmer the resistance, the more well done it is. Place the roast fat-side-up on a rack in a shallow sided pan. Make small criss-cross cuts in the fat and push half cloves of garlic through the incisions (lean salt pork or pancetta strips may also be used for added seasoning). Place in a 300-325°F oven until the internal temperature is slightly less than that for the desired degree of doneness listed in the chart below. Allow roast to sit at room temperature for 20 minutes before carving, during which time the temperature will continue to rise several degrees. If the roast being cooked is very large and a very rare roast is wanted, the oven may be turned off and cracked open when the internal temperature (of the roast) reaches 120°F. Cover the roast with foil, checking frequently until it reaches the temperature desired. Meanwhile, prepare pan gravy from the meat drippings which have accumulated in the bottom of the pan. Mirepoix can be added to the pan juices, or rib roast may be served simply "Au Jus" (with juice - the juice from cooking the meat). The following chart can be referenced when using a meat thermometer inserted in the center of the roast, while carefully avoiding touching fat or bone. Doneness: 130°F - very rare 140°F - medium rare 160°F - medium well done 170°F - very well done To serve, use a long, thin slicing knife to carve serving sized portions in the desired thickness for each serving. Serve Au Jus, or with pan drippings enhanced with mirepoix and accompanied by Maitre dHotel Butter or Horseradish Sauce. Submitted by: CM

Here is a sketch of the Butcher String ladder. It is very simple. I think I got one; something like this, when I bought a turkey,years ago. Lay the 28in. double piece out on the table and open it out to about 8 inches. Tie a knot on the one end. Cut 3- 12 inch pieces and space them like rungs on a ladder , as in the sketch. Tie these to the 28 in. pieces with one knot. Then loop the loose end around the side of the ladder and tie another knot. This will keep it from sliding or moving around. After you have tied all 6 ends, lay the ladder in the roasting pan, Place the bird on top and test it out. If it is ssfe, you are set. I use it this way, because I put a little water in the bottom of the Pan. When the bird is cooked ,I find the ends with a fork and lift the bird out and onto a Platter. You can add more rungs if you want, according to the size of the bird. Or you can use it for large roasts. There are many gadgets avaiable, for the same purpose. Here is a picture; after Dinner, of the Turkey that I showed in the previous Thread. Lou