Whirlpool Cabrio Woes/Warnings
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Foil dryer vent hose OK to use? Whirlpool warns against it.
Comments (12)dalemccl... In short the foil (and sister plastic) vent hoses have dimples or ripples caused by the wire ring spiraling through the material that it supports. It's those dimples through out the length of the hose that causes a lot of wind turbulence within the hose. Moisture and heat from the dryer pump through the hose and the moisture condenses inside the hose and lint clings on to it. Some of it is dislodged by the force of the dryer fan but some becomes stuck like a paste. Every cycle, this happens again and again eventually coating the inside of the hose. A solid metal hose/pipe has no ripples so it's the lease resistant. Flexible metal has tiny ripples so there is minimal wind turbulence. Flat out DON'T USE those cheap foil or plastic hoses. Like dixiedarlin1 stated, you can try the "Periscope" type vent. Or replace what you have with "Flexible Metal" (Flexible Metal being the best of both worlds...flexible like the cheap plastic/foil tubes but rigid like solid metal). Remember, if there ever was a fire, metal hoses will not melt and spread the fire like foil and plastic WILL. Now is the perfect time to upgrade your venting situation since your getting a new dryer. Check your outside vent cover or flapper to see if it needs updating, cleaning or replacing. I updated my old setup and cut my drying time by 10 minutes....See MoreKenmore Elyte Oasis he TL he washer issues
Comments (24)Browsing through old posts and found this and had to reply. We bought our Kenmore Elite Oasis set in April 2006. The dryer was the first to need repair. They replaced the control board. Dryer has never broken since though it doesn't sense small loads correctly and they will be damp after the dryer finishes. The washer -- ugh. I can't recall the order but it's been repaired (ie we paid for the year long warranty 3x) for faulty control board, hinge snapped (rust and it did rust/fail again but wasn't worth fixing because it'd just do it again), faulty control board that locked my laundry in a wet tub for three weeks before the technician could get out and fix, and for the past six months it's been throwing the uL until finally no amount of begging, coaxing and pleading could get a cycle to finish. My husband has opened it up a few times trying to avoid calling the repairman because at this point we were fed up. We've had to repair these machines just about yearly since purchasing. Sears has refused to do anything but charge us for repairs or buy another year long warranty. That machine has so much rust throughout the insides I was shocked. The washers are absolute junk. Terrible design and Sears did nothing to make it right with those of us that were unfortunate enough to trust in their product and purchase one. We will *never* buy another Kenmore product just because of how terrible their service has become. I can understand they goofed and had a miserable design. It didn't get tested enough before release. But there was no attempt at making it right with their customers. I called before we decided to junk this machine and all they wanted to do was charge another $230 for another year warranty. That would've put our total repair costs in the $600 range. FWIW, we do know that it's an actual whirlpool product marketed and sold under the Kenmore name. Which is why I couldn't bring myself to even look at any whirlpool washers. I had my list down to two choices -- Electrolux and Samsung and opted for the Samsung because it offered more choices for less money. We are also far wiser...we not only bought a 4 yr extended warranty but I'm fully prepared to have to replace it in 5-6 years. We didn't purchase from Sears either. :P...See MoreSingin' The Cabrio Blues, OR Why I still hate Sears
Comments (3)What you are experiencing is not unique to any one appliance repair service. I had to wait 2 weeks to have a chance of getting anyone out to look at my washing machine last year. It had filled but would not drain and would not complete a cycle. I scooped and mopped out all my wet laundry and all the water I could and waited. When he finally came, he plugged it in and tried to turn it on. It didn't so a thing. He tried again and again. Finally got it to hum, but nothing more. He looks at me and says he can't do anything if he can't get an error code. Huh? The washer won't even come on and you need and error code to know something is wrong? The thing is under an extended warranty, so I'm ready to tell him to replace it then when the pump suddenly kicked in and drained the foulest smelling stuff. He never got an error coade and the things been working fine for 13 months since with another 14 on the extended warranty. I got an idiot for a repairman, but at least I didn't have to wait another 2 weeks for parts. It really can be maddening when a amajor appliance goes out on you and you have to wait a week or two for a service call, they think nothing of making you wait all day,and then they spend 5 minutes to tell you that you'll have to wait for a part -- they'll call you in a week otr two to set up another call. That's just the routine these days. When the guy does show up, hope you get one like my dryer guy who can think, talk and take care of a problem, Had my washing machine not chosen self-help, I'm not sure we ever would have gotten anywhere. I'd be pressing for a new machine myself. On the water damage, most likely you can let everything dry out very well after the machine is dealt with (so you don't risk doing it twice) and then paint using a stain blocking primer first. Look for a primer that says it blocks water stains or they may come through. Most things that don't stand wet and that dry out completely will be fine. Water heaters and other tings leak all the time, and people dont have to rip out and replace everything. I know it's upsetting and worrysome, but you'll get it taken care of. And when the repairman does come -- don't be irate with him. You can express your frustration if it helps you or you need to make a point -- but that's all the poor guy hears all day. If you get a good one, you want him caring and working for you, not just trying to get out as fast as he can and figuring you got what you deserved. They just work for the company -- they don't own or run the system, and chances are they don't like it any better than you do. Hang in there, and good luck getting it all resolved....See MoreAfter the Cabrio
Comments (15)A noisy dryer is an interesting problem. The Kenmore Oasis dryer actually has two motors. One for turning the drum, and the other to seperately run the blower. This dryer also has a sensor that measures the airflow, and makes the dryer adjust the speed of the blower to maintain a constant airflow. This second motor also makes a noise that doesn't sound like a regular dryer, so some people get concerned when they hear their dryer working. All this is mute though, because the Cabrio dryer isn't like this. It only has a single motor that drives the drum and blower together. Another cause of loud dryer noise are the rollers that support the dryer drum. In some dryers these rollers can get a flat spot in them, and then when the dryer starts, these flat spots cause a thumping sound. It usually goes away when the dryer warms up though, usually after 30 seconds or so. The Cabrio, and it's Oasis counterpart have generally been well received, but jrcrowley99 is right though. There are two models, and these two models are quite different. The first model is not a lot different from a traditional deep fill top loader, except that it has much larger capacity, and spins at 1000 rpm. The larger capacity usually doesn't give anyone any problem, especially since the Cabrio has auto water level, since without this feature this Cabrio version would use way too much water. The 1000 rpm spin speed is more problematic, because this very fast spin is also combined with a very large diameter drum, which results in huge forces squeezing water out of the clothes. This is good for energy consumption and dryer time, but it's not so good for pressing wrinkles into clothes, or maybe I should say that it's very good for pressing wrinkles into clothes into clothes, either way it's not so good. Unfortunately, however, the agitator version of the Cabrio doesn't have selectable spin speeds, so the only way a user can dial the spin speed down is with cycle selection. The Permanent Press, Delicate, and Bulky cycles should all have lower spin speeds. The other Cabrio version uses an impeller instead of an agitator, and works in an entirely different way. In order for this washer to work properly it's important that the right amount of water be used for each wash load. The Cabrio actually adjusts the water level automatically for the user, so it's not any kind of problem, except that a lot of users aren't used to seeing a top loader wash clothes with so little water, and they get concerned about whether or not their washer is working properly. Adding more water wouldn't help things though, because if the washer has more water in it, the clothes will float up off the impeller, and the impeller vanes won't be able to move the clothes properly. So, people who have firm beliefs about how much water a washer should use, should consider getting the agitator version Cabrio over the impeller version Cabrio. The impeller version Cabrio also has the same 1000 rpm spin speed, and huge diameter basket, so it too can have problems with pressing wrinkles into clothes. Fortunately however, this Cabrio version has selectable spin speeds, so the user can dial the spin speed up or down as appropriate....See Morelulundave
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