Choosing a Floor Refinisher - Bona or Duraseal?
rmiriam
11 years ago
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Help me choose a floor color: Duraseal on red oak
Comments (19)I suggest going a few steps darker than the cabinets. Your dark(er) counter top will be your inspiration. The grain in the wood is quite strong which can be used to your ADVANTAGE! If you water pop your wood, the grain will take on the stain a snick more...thereby giving you the DEPTH of colour you crave WITHOUT going so dark that you remove the light from the room (or the floors). I suggest a mid-tone stain with water popping. I would work a little into the 'green' range as your counter top 'reads' cool tones more than orange tones. Let the GRAIN take a strong stain (water popping) so that you can get all the contrast you desire WITHOUT having to go too dark. Make sure your refinisher offers some colour samples on your floor (must include a coat of finish to show the true depth of the colour...and if you water pop make sure the water popping is done with all the colour samples). Once your samples are down, you can take the time to figure out which stain works BEST in your lighting situation as well as with your counter top....See MoreDuraseal stain with Bona sealer and Bona Traffic poly?
Comments (19)In my experience, standard oil-modified polyurethane wears better, and it certainly costs a lot less. The downsides are slow drying, smell and ambering. As much as I like oil poly, I feel Weathered Oak would turn yellow over time if you use it. We used to recoat a salon floor regularly. At a seminar I asked an expert if he had any recommendations for a finish that would wear better than Traffic. He recommended oil poly and said it wears better than any of the top shelf waterborne urethanes, even the one his company sold. Unfortunately the salon was in a residence hotel and we could use it due to the odor. Depending on your wear and tear, Mega HD Clear might be a viable option for you. It costs about $50/gallon less than Traffic....See MoreRefinishing 20 yr old maple floor with Bona Natural
Comments (11)OK...first thing you must know about maple...it gets STRONGER yellow tones as it is exposed to UV light (any light...even over head lighting). What does that mean? Notice the pale moon-tones of the raw wood? If you leave them 'natural' (without a UV blocking agent) you will get DEEP YELLOW within a year....like the colour you are seeing with #3. That's the look you get WITHOUT a colourant or stain. Just letting the maple 'sit' in the light = deep yellow. Are you prepared for that darkening? The colour you start out with TODAY WILL CHANGE. It will get darker and yellower. That's why I mentioned Loba's UV blocker = UVProtect. It is an additive that can be added to (almost any) water based product such as Bona Traffic HD. The 'mixing of the hardener' is VERY specific. Very very specific. As in, "Set in a laboratory to achieve the BEST results for the homeowner," type of specific. A flooring pro who has been TRAINED by Bona (ahem...he paid to get himself to the Bona Training session...paid for 3 days of hotel...paid for food...etc...and NOT getting paid...) can finagle the use of the hardener. But it should NEVER BE left 'out' of an equation. If you have a 2 part (2K = 2 Komponenten = German for 2 component) product, you REALLY MUST use the hardener as directed. Is it *possible to use it without the hardener? Yes. What is the benefit? LONGER working time (Bona Traffic HD = 2-5 minute wet edge = crazy-short). What are the drawbacks? LOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGG dry times and even LOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEER 'cure' times. And, if that isn't bad enough, and your finish will NEVER perform the way the manufacturer says it will = total waste of money. What is a LOOOONNNNNGGGG dry time? A day or two = you must have 2-4 DAYS between coats. If you are looking at 3 coats of finish = 8 days to COMPLETE the application of all three coats. What does LONGER cure time = 30+ days for 2 coats....3 coats = 40+ or more. That means NO furniture...no feet (stocking or otherwise)...no pets...no moving in....no moving out....NOTHING. Don't even open the door! So IMAGINE the extra costs to stay where you are or for 30+ days in paid accommodations. Right. Compare that to: Day 1 (of liquids): 1 coat 'sealant' + 1 coat Bona Traffic HD Day 2: 2 coats of Traffic HD (includes abrasion + tack cloth between coats) Walking over the floor (stocking feet = NO WORK being done...just nipping in to grab your keys!!!) = 2 days (48 hours...not just "two sleeps"). Cure: (furniture allowed but NO AREA RUGS!!!!!!) 7 - 10 days. The 3+ coats is a longer cure than 2+ coats. Full HARDNESS: (ahhhhh....that's something NO ONE talks about) 3-4 WEEKS (again the third coat means it needs another week of 'air time') First 'damp clean': 3-4 WEEKS = sweeping ONLY....NO DAMP MOPPING. Time to first area rugs: 8-12 months for MAPLE....because it needs TIME to darken/turn strong yellow. Whew! There you go. My advice: do NOT use someone else's sealant. Use BONA ONLY! Bona's IntenseSeal is the darkest sealant they have. It is probably #3....but confirm that please. Do NOT let them 'play' with the hardener...it is VITAL to the health of your finish and your sanity and your cheque book. I kid you not....See MoreDuraseal vs. Bona stain re: VOCs and off-gassing time
Comments (4)Just for clarification… A general rule for VOC’s is what goes in must come out. Bona Drifast has slightly more VOC’s than Duraseal, so it will off gas more per gallon. The Duraseal product that I looked at had 4.27 lbs per gallon and Bona Drifast has 4.6 lbs per gallon. Traditionally, faster curing products off-gas over a shorter time, however, some producers have began using the trick of binding the hydrocarbons to slow down VOC release even in fast drying products. For example, Tradionally conversion varnish was a fast curing product used in many consumer goods such as cabinets. Most off-gassing would be finished inside a week and only trace amounts would off-gas after three weeks, which is often faster than these products would be installed. In response to air quality regulations, the Xylene was bound and now off-gasses much less but continues for about a year. Having said that, if I were picking between these two products with off-gassing being the main concern… I would pick the Bona and feel safe that is the better bet....See Moregregmills_gw
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