Well-better stay away from porn sites and no charging.Speaking of porn sites did you ever innocently go to Yahoo chat room and think you would find a place to chat? Even the cancer site has ``college girls''offering to bare it all.

Gabi, Yes, when anyone says "big mac" I just assume (incorrectly) that the person is speaking of Hoya macgillivrayi. Yes, I love the leaves on macrophylla var. too. The plant never needs to bloom since the leaves are so stunning (well, flowers would be nice, but not necessary - oh, who am I kidding? I want flowers, too!!!) I just ordered macgillivrayi from DL so I'm excited to get one. I think I ordered the Massey River Queensland form with dark red flowers. With all of the hoyas I've purchased recently, I need to put a cardboard box out in the yard so I have the room for the hoyas in the house! Whatever it takes to have the room for the hoyas! I have a spreadsheet with all my hoyas and if I get everything from DL, I'll have 57. Back in the late 70's and early 80's I had almost 70, so I'm almost back to where I was. The plants I have now are so much cooler than the plants I had back then (lots and lots of carnosa hybrids), but there are so many cool hoyas available now. I just need to win the 10+ million in the HotLotto and I'll be set! Greenhouse, here I come! Mike

Weather was beautiful here this morning. We went to a fantastic in-door farmer's market where I bought a loaf of cranberry/walnut/whole wheat bread, local honey, mixed baby greens, and a pound of locally made pasta.

I have a couple of big max pumpkins that are doing the same thing. But one set a pumpkin last week and it's growing pretty well, about the size of a baseball now. It's still yellow and shows no sign of changing color, but it's definitely growing and appears healthy otherwise. I asked my father (old gardener) about it, and he thinks that that's just how they're supposed to look. Something about how BIG squash are usually yellow looking and pumpkins are actually squash.